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[–] VOALTRON 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago  (edited ago)

For context, the crime Flynn is charged with- lying to the FBI, does not require a formal investigation by agents. It basically means that if you tell any kind of lie, or misstatement about anything during a normal conversation with an FBI agent, you can be charged with this crime. You do not have to be under any kind of investigation. It is Stasi level bullshit. How an American general can be subjected to this level of fascist behavior is very telling of how far out of control the alphabet agencies really are.

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[–] DawnPendraig 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Ir absolutely is and this law needs to be repealed immediately. We have the right to remain silent and everyone needs to strictly use it no matter what with any kind of cop especially a Fed.

I wonder though if they even have to disclose who they are dor it to count as willfully lying to an FBI agent which lot of dictates one cannot willfully lie or mislead if they don't know who they are talking to and why but these dirty cops don't play by any kind of honorable rules.

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[–] BONFIRE_OF_VANITIES 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Law Dawgs always do their best work when their target is either too comfy or too nervous. Legality I don't think comes into play here. Do undercover narcs have to tell the perp that they are being recorded? And look, I get it. Fuck the deep state and all their satanic shit. But folks need to watch what they say talking anyone. Even you.

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[–] Fishdo169 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Surely though the point is how many people are charged with lying to an undercover agent? Legally how can anyone be charged with lying to the fbi if they aren’t informed that any statement they make is being entered into record... it’s completely different legally if you use an undercover agent to obtain intelligence that will lead to gaining evidence... Though the whole argument is moot... the FBI have admitted Flynn didn’t lie and those FBI agents who duped Flynn had to change their 302s to try to say he did lie... (they just didn’t think they would be found out at the time)now that’s illegal!

So what do FBI agents get for lying to the FBI?

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[–] BONFIRE_OF_VANITIES 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

A paycheck you and I provide. I see your point about the legality of covert actions to obtain more than just talk but..(shrug) ..They have gotten so arrogant and out of control I'm at a loss.

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[–] Fateswebb 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

But what's this about they told him to not have his lawyer present? If he is being interrogated then doesn't that disqualify it? And how do you even say that and not raise suspicions.

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[–] KueAnaan 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Just giving a tour implies that he wasn't under oath.

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[–] MolochHunter 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I'll tell ya somethin else. The 302 form used to prove his 'lie' ? Strzok signed it in August 2017. 8 months after the meeting

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[–] DawnPendraig 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

McCabe is known to have a personal beef with Gen Flynn too.

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[–] CR302 ago 

He pled guilty to this so they would have to taken his testimony as evidence...any testimony he gave them about wwhat ever he decided to tell them. What he knows and shares becomes states evidence...he spilled his guts to force their hand. He fell on his sword.

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[–] Bushpilot ago 

You use tricks when you can't do it legally.

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[–] singlebrain1 ago 

Miranda rights?

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[–] pwdwp [S] ago 

The wording used when a person is read the Miranda Warning, also known as being ‘Mirandized,’ is clear and direct:

  • You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to an attorney. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be provided for you. Do you understand the rights I have just read to you? With these rights in mind, do you wish to speak to me?

Are there exceptions to when the officer needs to read Miranda Rights?

Answer: If they’re not really interrogating about an existing crime, they would not read the Miranda rights. An example would be a DUI arrest. In that instance, most of the evidence is gathered prior to the arrest; there’s really not interrogation after the fact, therefore in many of those cases there is not a Miranda warning given.

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[–] numina18 ago 

I hear pardons are really nice to receive as Christmas gifts......

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