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[–] Jaegerjaques 2 points 7 points (+9|-2) ago 

Socialism is just communism with added steps

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[–] Pluviou5 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

"The goal of socialism is communism"

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[–] alalzia 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

You are like the first goat to understand communist theory

Socialism = revolutionary way to communism

Democratic socialism = way to communism through reforms

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[–] boekanier 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

And the goal of communism is to enslave the masses.

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[–] HarlandKornfeld14 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Financiers in London and New York bankrolled Lenin. Stop thinking in the left-right paradigm.

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[–] Mylon ago 

Capitalism is just feudalism with extra steps.

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[–] XSS1337 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

They both starve people except the 1%

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[–] HarlandKornfeld14 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Oy vey why don't you like Trickle Down Economics!? We swear a shekel might trickle down sooner or later!

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[–] XSS1337 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yes, when my great great great ... oh wait I starved waiting.

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[–] irelandLost 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

The only reason Democratic Socialism has become so widely discussed is because it sounds like Social Democracy, and they're relying on people not understanding the difference between the two.

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[–] GapingAnus ago 

One (arguably) works. The other does not.

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[–] Mylon ago  (edited ago)

Or because we're at late stage capitalism and the massive consolidation of corporations is quickly turning the world into a corporatocracy. Something must be done to prevent this dystopia. Democratic socialism is one pitched solution. Do you have a better one or are you just going to repeat the "lulz socialism always fails" meme?

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[–] irelandLost ago 

That's not a meme, it's a historical fact that socialism always fails. And we're not at "late stage capitalism" whatever that nonsense is supposed to mean, we've just let the crony aspect of crony capitalism gain too much influence over economies. Solutions are relatively simple: smaller state leading to less unnessecary regulations (the most powerful feather in the bow of the corporatists is overegulation), proper enforcement of anti-trust laws in industries that become controlled by monopolies or oligarchies, similar with cartel behaviours. Stop globalised firms and companies becoming "stateless" through WTO or sanctions on those that facilitate this practice (my country would be head of the queue here, we facilitate some serious tax avoidance by corporates). And the one socialist aspect that needs to return is trade unions, or something similar for the modern day. The labour movements in Europe got annihilated in the 80s and 90s and the results have been very far reaching. It is why politics has become the preserve of the extraordinarily wealthy, and it has resulted in a persistent attack on labour's standards of living.

Capitalism will always be the best economic system, but that doesn't mean our systems can't be manipulated by those with influence. Bailing out the banks, wildly increasing the money supply etc. were not capitalist practices, they were cronyism. Don't confuse the cronyism of capitalism with capitalism itself.

Add to all of the above the financial system is a joke, and has been since 1971. Again, this is not a fault of capitalism.

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[–] boekanier 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

There is no other socialism than stupid socialism.

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[–] HarlandKornfeld14 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago  (edited ago)

People are locked into the Hegelian Dialectic of Jewish hypercapitalism and Jewish (((European-Style Socialism))). Jewish capitalism creates a problem and then they propose a fake solution which allows the shekels to flow unabated. People get screwed by European-Style Socialism and the solution is to deregulate and give tax breaks to big businesses and the ultra-rich.

Democracy is a dictatorship of financiers the whole concept of "Democratic Socialism" is an oxymoron. Democracy is a sham.

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[–] ScreaminMime 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

People are locked into confusing Capitalism with Laissez Fair Economics.

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[–] HarlandKornfeld14 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Laissez Fair was just the stage of capitalism before business got powerful enough to shape state policy and the wider culture to it's will. The businesses wanted minimum intervention in their affairs until they accumulated enough power. Capitalism went crony when it got enough power, it was just a matter of progression.

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[–] Lateknighttt 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

They’re only one good form of Socialism.

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[–] fuckmyreddit 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Democratic Socialism is just a longer, slower slide down to serfdom.

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[–] AmaleksHairyAss 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Meanwhile in the real world democratically socialist Scandinavia has a higher standard of living than literally everyone else.

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[–] shadow332 [S] ago 

Give Sweden a chance, the shitskins just arrived.

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[–] AmaleksHairyAss ago 

Immigration policy is only tangentially related to economic policy.

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[–] Mylon ago 

This is what people of voat don't get. "lol Venezuela amirite?" Nevermind the long history of US manipulating countries into banana republics, bullying Cuba with a de facto blockade, or the Nordic economic model and it's success.

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