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[–] o_V_o 7 points 38 points (+45|-7) ago  (edited ago)

Well, seeing as being "born that way" hasn't actually been proven (and to be perfectly honest, doesn't even make sense), I'm willing to bet that what we're looking at here isn't that lesbians are obese, but... obese women [are more likely to] BECOME lesbians. Pretty obvious.

You can see exactly what each gender is about by looking at their respective homosexual populations. For the most part: Men are visual, women are emotional. Science knew this long ago... please try and catch up. Thanks.


Mute downvoters: speak up, that's the only way to change anything. What you're doing now is simply an attempt at moving opinions you don't like out of view. See, the catch is: if you actually had anything to base your dislike on other than "feels" you wouldn't need to rely on mute downvotes. Mute downvotes essentially mean I'm right. Think about it... if you had any real proof to support your side, you'd be tripping over each other to post it.... but all you got is downvotes. Too bad, so sad.


Sad what it takes to get people to speak up...

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[–] BiscuitFever 7 points -1 points (+6|-7) ago 

"Pls stop downvoating me for my unscientific opinion. Just because I don't know what I'm talking about doesn't mean I should be downvoated for acting like I do!"

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[–] o_V_o 3 points 4 points (+7|-3) ago 

Wow... look at all that evidence you provided and it ALL proves how wrong I am! You got me!

Sorry you disagree, but downvotes are all you got. Try again.

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[–] ForgotMyName 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

You're being downvoated because you aren't actually making a point or adding to the discussion. Prove him wrong or GTFO. This isn't reddit. "Someone hurt my fee fees, better downvote" doesn't fly around here. If you can prove him wrong, please do, I'd like to see some sources either way.

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[–] Spacehuman 1 point 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

I think men are generally 'born that way'. Women tend to have a sexual preference - which is fluid. Man tend to have a sexual orientation - which is rigid. Women do 'switch teams' whereas men are not wired to do so.

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[–] ForgotMyName 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago 

Strange, now that you mentioned it, I've had the same experience. Anecdotally, the gay guys that I've known since they were kids were pretty gay when they were kids. The lesbians, were all over the place. Girls that only dated girls in high school are married to guys now. Girls that I'd never have guessed were gay are now lesbians.

Not even going to pretend like this is remotely scientific, but it's just interesting that my own observations happen to align with it.

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[–] Broc_Lia 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

Wut?

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[–] o_V_o 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

I think both are fluid, but men are socialized to be rigid, women aren't.... and it goes all the way back to the simple fact that homosexuality in women isn't a threat to the population the same way it is in men (btw, that's why the church was against it... fewer birth means fewer followers)... lesbians can always be over-powered when reproduction is absolutely necessary or vacant uteri are in short demand. On the other hand, with exception to something like raping them in their sleep, gay men aren't much use in this regard.

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[–] cynoclast 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I think women are just prettier, even to other women. They haven't been called 'the fairer sex' for eons for no reason.

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[–] zedoktar 3 points -2 points (+1|-3) ago  (edited ago)

Born that way makes perfect sense. What you are describing is a social construct. It is far far more acceptable for a girl to get with girls and guys, then for a guy to do the same. Plenty of girls want nothing to do with bi guys, a lot of gay people think they need to pick a side or stop trying to deny their nature, and they get a lot of shit. It is much harder to flit back and forth because of this, whereas women can do whomever they please generally without the same social pressure or disdain.

I wouldn't be surprised if that was true, to some extent. it seems like they flock to BDSM for similar reasons. Seeking acceptance and sex from alternative places cause they can't get it anywhere else. I am convinced a fair number of so called submassive as well as Domme obese women in BDSM got there because they figured out catering to fetishes got them more attention. That is not to say lesbianism is a fetish, mind you. Just that finding acceptance and love outside the so-called mainstream would be an attractive proposition for fatties.

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[–] archdog99 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

I actually used to be on the fence about "born this way" because if you look at the function of nature, males & females need to get together to procreate and spread our species. So at that time, I wasn't buying it.

Then I (and no, I don't have any sources) read around and listened to a couple of people on NPR and there's an argument to be made about genetic variations and possibly a population control safeguard where a certain percentage of the population is "discouraged" from procreating and therefore attracted to the same sex.

The point is, the arguments made sense and made me rethink my opinion. I think there is a percentage of the population that, for whatever reason, is born predisposed to preferring the same sex.

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[–] King_Carcosa 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

I like the old Socratic method of questioning "When did you choose to be straight then?" As a straight male I cannot fathom being gay, or making that "choice." Just seems natural to me that people that are gay were born with different preferences than me.

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[–] jerm 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Your first sentence is exactly what popped into my head when I read the title. Upvote for you. :)

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[–] brick- ago 

In any thread about weightloss this low effort comment is reliably the most upvoted. Everyone thinks it's clever because it is technically correct, but it is completely useless, and adds nothing to the discussion. It shuts down any useful conversation about hunger management and motivation, or in this case the sociological reasons why a group happens to be less willing or less able to control their caloric balance.

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[–] Calzone [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

It's entirely correct and does need to be said because when it comes down it, this is the answer. You want hunger management and motivation? It's called will power and it doesn't matter what group you're apart of, either you have it or you don't.

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[–] xX720-noscopeXx 1 point 12 points (+13|-1) ago 

obviously they don't exercise enough and eat shit food.

Maybe its because they feel more comfortable with one another as there all chicks and not picky guys.

butch lesbians do tend to be stocky though.

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[–] thatsmrdickface 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

obviously they don't exercise enough and eat shit food.

Somebody write this guy a check for $3.5 million.

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[–] xX720-noscopeXx 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I thought gays would be more fit seeing as they like muscle men and aren't all chubby chasers?

its stupid that people wonder why there fat and the reason is always x amount energy in x amount energy out

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[–] Moolk ago 

I would, but I can't seem to find my giant novelty check book!

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[–] cynoclast ago 

Picky guys? Found the fat chick.

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[–] aakaakaak 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Picky guys....does not compute...

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[–] KarmaComber 1 point 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

Fuck off, for real?

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[–] Calzone [S] 1 point 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

Welcome to "progressive" America

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[–] lps2 3 points 2 points (+5|-3) ago 

? It seems like they have identified a sub-group with a particular health problem, obesity, and are trying to find the root of that health problem.... you know, one of the many jobs of governance. I would be willing to bet there are similar studies about other social groups and their particular health issues

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[–] BiscuitFever 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Well, it's interesting I guess. Homosexual males tend to be the least obese and most fit out of any sexual orientation.

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[–] josemon 1 point 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

Because the fact that they are not attractive makes them turn to women. Isn't that obvious?

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[–] zedoktar 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

truth. You see it in the bdsm community too, exploiting fetishes to get some loving.

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[–] Nationalist ago 

So that's why when you go out of anything put PIV-sex it's all fat and old bitches.

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[–] Broc_Lia 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

The double standards here are ridiculous. Straight men are also more likely than straight women to be obese, but I don't see anyone decrying that they are being "disproportionately affected by an epidemic" (as if obesity were a product of an infectious disease rather than personal choices).

As for "lower athletic esteem"... that applies to overweight people in general. Have they controlled for that?

Plus, the theory that this is caused by gender normative team selection is bunk given that gay men seem to manage just fine.

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[–] ElementalPee ago 

I believe this is the full text of the study being referenced and they said they adjusted for obesity.

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[–] Broc_Lia 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

According to that study homosexual boys are more likely to have athletic esteem issues due to their sexuality than girls, and yet they're less likely to be obese, so clearly athletic esteem isn't the cause of lesbian obesity.

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[–] toatsmavoats 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

BUT WHERE WILL WE FIND THE MONEY FOR OUR NATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE??? WON'T SOMEONE THINK ABOUT THE ROADS!! damnit...

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[–] Nationalist 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I can't tell if you're being serious.

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[–] Calzone [S] 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Or just don't take it out of our hands in the first place, we worked for it.

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