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[–] suenas_sacrifice 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Tbf they do have a point. A days worth of insulin is 2€ in Germany cuz we have regulations that forbid the pharma and insurance companies to make near infinite profits from people's life or death situations.

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[–] wanderingblade 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Don't kid yourself. It's subsidies. Sure there's corruption and greed but people don't understand how much drugs cost to develop research and produce. Even insulin which is long past any patents, has to be made in vivo. It's more scalable than pig pancreases but still. Cells don't make a lot of insulin even under optimized conditions, then you have to purify it. I would guess that $2.5 dose costs more like $50 to make. I work in pharmaceuticals and most of the money is spent well. Where I work anyway

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[–] suenas_sacrifice 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Congrats that's literally what insurance is for who don't work for profit here which is the reason why it's so cheap (:

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[–] wanderingblade ago 

Oh and also: human insulin is cheap, but most people use insulin analogs. I can elaborate but the cost is 10x as high

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[–] tadiabeteslover ago 

2€ also because of nationalized healthcare, so it's like everyone has insurance. With insurance in America, I pay $10 for 3 bottles of insulin, which lasts me about 45 days. So what's that? $0.45 per day? Clearly not comparable situations.

Two more things, though. 1. What's a 'days worth of insulin' actually mean? If you eat more carbs, you're going to need more insulin. Are they like me, and eat a low-carb type diet so insulin needs remain low? Or are they stuffing their face with McBeetus, Starguzz, and bakery/cakery options? 2. Of course, like others have said, I use the most generic type so my insurance company pays the majority, but I choose to do that rather than go for the most expensive types.

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[–] PenguinOrgy 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

What they're doing to type 1 diabetics is absolutely appalling.

You ever think the price went up because demand went through the fucking roof?

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[–] Carsandsarcasm 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I wish it was genocide. Then we could cut to the chase and be done with this problem.

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[–] mmmmdonuts 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Yeah! Kill all the fats! I'm down.

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[–] HugoFord 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Type 2 diabetes is a dietary problem. Stop eating carbs and fast 36 hrs a couple times a week. Pretty soon you won’t need insulin.

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[–] thin_privilege 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

And rightfully so. Demand is high because everyone's a fat fuck, so prices will rise. It's of course difficult for communist to grasp simple economics, but then again physics is even harder for a fat fuck.

At this point I consider diabetes type 2 a disease for the privileged. Insuline therefore is to be compared to other stuff you don't really need, like a Hermes bag.

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[–] ohgoodlord 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

It's almost like when demand goes waaaaayyy up, a shortage can legitimately happen. Fucking fats. The naturally occurring autoimmune Type 1 disease is bad enough. Doing this to yourself is inexcusable.

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[–] glassuser 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

You know what's cheaper than insulin? Eating less.

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[–] mybrotherans 3 points 0 points (+3|-3) ago 

I'd like my Type 1 friend to stay alive, thanks

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[–] mmmmdonuts ago 

Pretty sure they were referring to the fatties.

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[–] tadiabeteslover 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

I'm a Type 1, and yes, eating less means using less insulin. Specifically, a 'keto' or low-carb diet works great, because insulin usage is mostly tied to carbohydrate intake, with a little to deal with glycogen breakdown/release in the liver. Seriously. I've counted carbs for the last 20 years, and never had a doctor mention any other purpose for insulin besides its function in dealing with blood sugar.

Now, is that what @glassuser was saying? Maybe. Most modern American diets are heavily biased towards carbohydrate intake, so there's is a lot of room to cut out foods that ratchet up the needed insulin intake.

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[–] Mumbleberry 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Where are these theories? I wanted a good laugh.

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