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[–] pcdude 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

This one is not a product of big government or socialism. This has its roots in unions, and before that guilds that go back 2500 years. Ultimately people want assurances that they are getting high quality services, and guilds are supposed to be able to offer that. If there was a big reset on everything, guilds would form naturally. The problem is less with the concept of licensing and code restriction and more with government getting involved in it. Introduce government and you introduce cronyism and corruption.

It the government stepped out, you would have private guilds enforcing most of the same things in order to ensure quality work that keeps them looking good and keeps the wages at the highest that a free market will tolerate.

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[–] Nigg3rFaggot 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

You had me until here;

“Introduce government and you introduce cronyism and corruption.”

I disagree as I don’t believe government is inherently bad, I just believe psychopaths are naturally attracted to power over others even working in the private sector.

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[–] pcdude ago 

The capacity of government to be corrupt is proportional to its size and power over time. A powerful government over time allows the corrupt people to filter in, take power and ruin it.

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[–] pcdude ago 

As a licensed contractor, sometimes they are, but not as often as you might think.

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[–] pcdude ago 

That’s a corrupt union. Government corrupts these things when they are allowed to mix. It can get bad, but not nearly as quickly or permanently when government lacks the power to grant unions favors.

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[–] prairie 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Unions are fine as long as they don't initiate force (or use government to do it indirectly). They are free to exercise control over their own property and bodies, and if they want to organize as groups who consistently exercise control over themselves, more power to them.

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