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[–] captainstrange 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
Without the state, unions would have no teeth
Without the state the unions would just hire thugs to kick in your teeth.
Every group of people eventually becomes a gang.
Licensing 'unions' are to control the supply of some service or product, and so keep prices high--they are a natural response to governments importing spics and streetshitters to artificially manipulate prices lower.
[–] Hand_of_Node 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
It's like people have forgotten that unions beat and kill people who vote the wrong way, or threaten their power to extract money from workers.
They did before the government got involved. Before the government the thugs were either privately hired or they locked you out of markets by denying you acceptance to guild endorsement. People will naturally go for guild endorsed devices because it eliminates a lot of the risk that what you get is inferior.
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[–] prairie 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Unions are fine as long as they don't initiate force (or use government to do it indirectly). They are free to exercise control over their own property and bodies, and if they want to organize as groups who consistently exercise control over themselves, more power to them.