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[–] derram 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

https://archive.fo/qnvaw :

The Facts On Tax Rates: Who Pays What


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[–] shawnfromnh69 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

I bet that is a huge secret in their eyes that the Democrats do not want their voters knowing since if that got out it would seem that the beggars are all victims but the hard working tax payers are all at fault for them not trying hard enough to be able to support everyone else and not complain or vote republican because they are so lucky to be white males and have responsibilities that we take seriously.

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[–] Rainy-Day-Dream [S] 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

no even if you can get them to see these facts in their eyes it just feeds back into the whole privilege/oppression narrative and the only reason that brown people and women are so unproductive is because of how "oppressed" they are just like the issue with crime rates and socioeconomic achievement, they continue to make excuses for these burdens and their failures. I'm curious as to why no one ever oppresses Asians in such a way

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[–] 13301915? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I think it is funny that many East Asians came here in slavery or worse conditions (or even as ACTUAL refugees) and managed to get their shit together in the span of a few generations. So much so that they are now being lumped in with "whites" as far as many SJW's and campuses are concerned. If I were Asian and trying to get into school I would claim native status

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[–] VoatsNewfag 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

do not want their voters knowing

Many of them would probably still vote democrat since they benefit from this transaction. They are probably more afraid that the majority of cucked white men will figure this out and lose their guilt complexes!

I also had some success by using this as an argument against white feminist/socialist women. It makes them lose confidence in their supposed moral highground and they appeared much less smug after bringing this fact up. Some that had hard working sons I could even make to emphasize with the perspective of men, since even if they have little empathy for males in general they usually still have empathy for their sons being used as tax slaves for the benefit of strangers.

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[–] Rainy-Day-Dream [S] 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

"independent" women are really a problem

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[–] MaggieMcC 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

President Trump has made great strides in denying welfare benefits to holders of green cards.

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[–] 7e62ce85 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

What if, let's be crazy for a moment, WHAT IF the productive people of society just got to keep their money and then spent it themselves on having productive children and paid for their own insurance?

/v/EmergencyNation

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[–] Rainy-Day-Dream [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

in regard to the post I'm just talking about the problems in the system we have, rather than passing judgement on the system

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[–] MaggieMcC 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Before immigration laws were changed to permit people of NO means of support to come here,immigrants used to pay taxes as well. Now they are too often supported by citizens, men and women. Trump's recent order to deny many welfare benefits to green card holders should give relief to actual citizens.

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[–] Doctopus ago 

And the approval rating is about to go through the roof.

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[–] Doctopus 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Would lead to nonproductive people starving, and likely killing productive people over their resources when they got the chance. Then society would collapse. That's assuming productive people didn't band together in some way to avoid this (cast out the poor? kill?). Starvation directly increases aggression and violence while decreasing higher cognitive function. What would probably solve all our problems in one generation is a form of eugenics where you had to EARN the right to reproduce by proving you are able to be a productive member of society by an objective standard. We could still feed people on welfare basic rations and allow them to try and become active participants in society. This would be the most humane way to stabilize society IMO.

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[–] 7e62ce85 ago 

That's assuming productive people didn't band together in some way to avoid this (cast out the poor? kill?).

Under Emergency Nation rules socialists and other violent religions are exiled.

You are also exiled if you can't pay the yearly citizen fee or do service instead.

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[–] hang_em_high 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I'm still not even sure what benefits I am actually receiving from the government. It seems like a pretty one-way transaction on the federal level to me.

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[–] Rainy-Day-Dream [S] 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

it's funny because lots of other people especially in cities full of brown skin run by democrats have the opposite experience they pay nothing despite receiving benefits. Taxation is a half duplex transmission, it sends and receives but only one way at a time if you're sending you won't get anything back and when you're taking it doesn't ask anything of you

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[–] hang_em_high 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Even the things I do benefit from such as roads, DMV, trash, police, fire, state parks (okay I will concede national parks as well), utilities are all state and city level items that I don't mind paying for.

I am honestly not sure what the Federal government is giving me. Everything they touch ends up ruining the entire industry and costing me more than if they weren't involved like health insurance and student loans.

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[–] MaggieMcC 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Roads? Bridges? Not in good shape. Cameras to record your novements? That's a benefit???

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[–] hang_em_high 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I am more than happy to pay for the roads I use. I am not okay with paying for a bunch of freeloading fucks.

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[–] Womb_Raider 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

How is anyone supposed to read that image of the Bilderbergs? Even in another tab zoomed in, it's an extreme challenge to follow those lines...

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[–] Rainy-Day-Dream [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I didn't make it, but tbh isn't that the bilderberg groups fault? their network is unreasonably vast and interconnected

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[–] ardvarcus 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

This doesn't surprise me at all. I've long assumed that white men are carrying the full burden of running our depraved, perverted, corrupt society on their shoulders.

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[–] Rainy-Day-Dream [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

it's good to go with your gut and be right, but it's also nice to have/know the numbers if you need to tell others

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[–] WhiteRonin 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

  1. Concert the welfare system into one that is a sliding scale - work and vocational programs will be necessary to do to continue welfare payments.

  2. End vagimony and loss of half your assets to women. Child support should also be stopped. If the woman wants the child then she should pay for it.

  3. Eliminate giving money to other countries.

  4. Invest differently in the US military. Convert more operations to androids and drones. We don’t need so many boots on the ground or in camps waiting for deployment.

  5. Convert the educational system to one that includes internships for seniors. Upon graduation, work or AA/AB is allowed then 2 years off to work or 1 year of military. After which a BA/BS is allowed.

  6. Can Bert Medicaid into a hybrid system and put all medical services on a nationwide point system that means all services are the same price - yep wipe out the capitalism in the system. Let the hospitals compete on service and skill.

  7. If you aren’t a citizen, you can’t vote even on a local level. Yes, ID will be required.

So there are 7 points that could turn the US profitable again.

Your arguement would require kicking out the eskimos, American Indians, native Hawaiians, and all native peoples off their native islands since the US has territories like Puerto Rico, Guam and Soma. Sorry but America becoming 100% white is unrealistic. Sure let those islands go independent ... but what about Alaska and Hawaii.

Good premise but go back to the drawing board.

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[–] Rainy-Day-Dream [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

  1. get rid of the welfare system altogether, a social safety net is antithetical to meritocracy, if people want/need my money why don't they ask and I'll think about it.

  2. end "no fault" divorces so whores can't get a payout and custody from ruining a marriage

  3. yes but charge other countries money for services we provide renegotiate things like NATO so that if germany doesn't want to put 2% GDP in for their own they can give it to our defense budget

  4. I prefer boots, comfy jobs operating machinery like drones can be dumbed down enough for fat hispanics and that's not the kinda military I want to see standards are already dropping to facilitate the acceptance of women and darkies

  5. do away with the public education system altogether, there's enough free resources avalible that a competent stay at home mom shouldn't have too much trouble but if she prefers private/Christian/charter schools will still be around as well as hiring a tutor, government doesn't belong in education.

  6. completely de-socialize the healthcare system get government out and get rid of insurance, then pressure hospitals to reduce inflation on services, most things like a check up, broken bones, most heart issues, and an emergency room visit would become affordable out of pocket and measures for affording treatment for things like cancer could be managed at the state and local level

  7. ID? yeah no, no more government databases. Provide proof of citizenship and then mark the person. even street shitters could figure this one out

that was just a hypothetical for the sake of arguement it's certainly realistic but not without strong government force or organized force from citizens, violence works, I'd like to avoid that but I'm just saying it could be done and it wouldn't be that hard. Also it doesn't literally have to be 100% maintaining a 70-80% super majority would be fine, I don't have too much of a problem with orientals, feather niggers, or hawaiians/alakans, but first the niggers, mexicans, arabs, and kikes have to go we can worry about what to do with the rest after.

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[–] WhiteRonin 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Thanks for a good response. Too many here debate with generalizations.

  1. I was thinking of unemployment insurance. We do pay into already. I just don’t want to keep paying for those who can work but don’t. I was also thinking that those who do fall through the cracks would benefit from having vocational schooling and such.

  2. On same page. So adding that is good.

  3. I can go with this. Definitely getting paid for military services is good.

  4. I was thinking reduction in size and deaths so automaton. Also, other countries would be less willing to fight against machines.

  5. I see the base problem of were you are coming from. If we increased teacher salaries, better talent will show up. Also, there is a social aspect that is needed for kids. The current system does need reworking and moving the kindergarten style of learning into all grades would change a lot of things. Home school removes a lot of social interaction and would make device independence even worse. Maybe, turn schools into private enterprises or enforce public accountability since we are forced to fund the schools we should have more of a say into teacher bullshit propaganda.

  6. The system I proposed is similar to Japan’s. It’s cheap effective and really fair. Nobody goes bankrupt because of cancer. Access is 24/7 and the doctors actually see you. I’ve gone to a hospital at 2am needing solid flu meds and got them for like $30. A friend got a full hip joint replacement for $500 and another friend got a kidney from her mom and paid $3k for her and her mom’s surgery and hospital care. Having a kid is $3k but the government reimbursed you for that too. I don’t trust US hospitals because they are so tied to making money that going on ansustem like yours at first would potentially go in the opposite direction. Look at service costs for any given area and notice how hospitals in the US charge various prices.

  7. Using a drivers license would work. We are already in a database.

We aren’t that far apart and I’m willing to adapt better ideas. I’m just throwing stuff out here because lots of people won’t or want somebody else to think of things.

I threw in the other colors and original inhabitants because 100% pure white isn’t possible and that not all whites aren’t whites and not all blacks are niggers. Lots of whites are niggers (not talking about coal burners) too from both sides of the political system exists. I don’t mind any color as long as they want to be American first. I’ve always hated the terms like African American and Italian American. You are American first and then your ancestory second.

We also both forgot to remove diversity hiring. Screw that! You can do the job or not. If a market lacks potential employees it will naturally take chances on hires who could be trained.

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[–] MaggieMcC ago 

A lot of hatred seething in you, isn't there?

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[–] Colonel_Questionmark 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

And now you know why we have taxes.

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[–] Rainy-Day-Dream [S] 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

actually that's a whole other story and an important part of our history if you look at the articles of confederation our government wasn't actually supposed to have taxation power at all because the one of main reasons they rebelled against England was it's governments abuses of taxation, but long story short that was more unrealistic than they realized

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[–] 13301930? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

It is amazing that the America of several hundred years ago is somehow better at math :)

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