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[–] Korinthian ago  (edited ago)

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Every traditional house wife I know who has had a divorce, has been due to her husband having an affair. Of course I'm not narrow minded enough to believe that all men are like this, there are plenty of women who run around, too

So. Men and women both cheat. But, when men cheat, the marriage ends. Thats your words, im just trying to get you to accept the painfully obvious.

Every divorce you know, the man is considered the guilty party. Lets say thats 100% accurate... women still cheat too, by your own admission. So. Man cheats, women ends marriage. Women cheats, marriage is not ended. Can you see the difference? The way the power dynamics affect the outcome. When the person with all the leverage fucks up, theres no consequences, bit when the person with zero leverage fucks up, consequences are immediate.

And im not saying its okay for men you dense twat. Im saying men already dont and cant do anywhere near the damage single mothers do. Welfare queens exist. Welfare kings do not.

Your entire premise of "men must not act on their sexual impluses" is ridiculous. Their impluses mean fuckall if the woman says NO. Women have the final say. You may as well try to blame a man for an abortion.

Women have more power in all relationships with men. To a frankly disgusting degree. Thats why shit like MGTOW exists, while WGTOW does not. Men have a large incentive not to play the game, because its fucking rigged against them, but women have it rigged in their favor and see no reason to change the game.

Thats all im hearing from you. Women like the way things are, but want men to try more, when its already too much of a risk to try at all, with white women at least. Im trying to get it through your thick skull, either white women need to change the game, or more white men will just look for asians instead.

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[–] Warnos44 ago 

You go ahead and call me a dense twat after I didn't insult you a single time, you've exposed yourself for what you are.

I am currently in a marriage where my husband cheated on me, I have forgiven him, even though our marital relations coincided with his cheating. You could ask him if you knew him what did I do? Not enough sex (at least four times a week even with a new born!), Not enough home cooked meals? They were hot on the table when he came in the door. The only thing I suck at is keeping the laundry done, he thinks there should never be a load dirty, I think it's fine to have two to three to do in a day. He tells me all the time that I nothing wrong. His service fucked him up mentally. I'll go beyond that and say his parenting along with the service made a perfect storm. So I don't want to hear your "I know everything even though I haven't actually experienced it" bullshit claiming a woman has all the power. What man here wants a divorced woman with children? What kind of cuck job to pay and raise another man's children. When a woman makes the choice to end her marriage she knows it's unlikely to find a man worth having who actually wants her unless he also has baggage. That means it was really, really bad actually worth risking being alone until her youngest is 18 years old. If I were to walk away, I wouldn't date until my children were 16+, because I would never risk exposing them to a man who would verbally or sexually abuse them. I also can't really walk away unless I want to commit my children to day care and public schools to raise my children. You act like women don't care about their children. Even on a fat alimony and child support check, a woman from a middle class marriage is still going to have to work to provide for her and her children. Fuck that. I got to experience the day cares and the step father. It's not happening in my home, with my children. Ever.

And in the cases where it ended? One wanted to bring his mistress home to America from the Philippines and have his wife in the same household, one was bragging about it on Reddit and his wife discovered it. When she discovered it, he flew into a rage, dared her to have a problem with it, drained the bank accounts and moved the family to a smaller home while filling for divorce before she could do anything. Because how dare she have an issue with it when he provided roof, food, and clothing for her and the children! And because she had never worked the entire 16 years they had children, she had no income, and the courts granted him custody because he had a good lawyer and income, and she had none. I was so fucking mad. I found out about my husband a week after she found out about hers. I told my husband if he ever dared to take my children I would kill him. To this day, I don't know how she has handled it without killing him or herself. He never spent time with them. She taught them everything. They didn't want to be with him, but the only one that was old enough to decide per court rules wanted to just go to college and was angry at both of them.

The other I know none of the detail other than she made a big sacrifice of her education to be a good housewife, and her husband cheated on her. She was always couponing, something I've never been able to do, and taught other women, made an actual decent complimentary income next to his even though she was home for their kids.

And for further reference, I never wanted children or to get married, you know why? My father got a girl pregnant, married her, met my mom while at work, got her pregnant, and went back to his wife after telling my mom he was going to leave his wife and marry her. He got his wife pregnant again, had another kid, before my mom finally couldn't make it anymore on her own without child support and filed for it. I still remember him calling her a whore in court and her crying, because she really did fall for his bullshit, and really did love him, and really never slept around. The court read off my DNA confirmation and that was that. My dad and his wife didn't divorce for eight more yyear, there's another "if a man cheats it always ends in divorce!!!" for you. I knew I never wanted to have anything to do with men. My dad was my first example, and wasn't my last. The irony of my current situation isn't lost on me at all, at least there isn't another kid in the picture with the other woman.

So, in the spirit of you calling me a twat, you go fuck yourself, you know it all, hateful, condescending, truly misogynistic asshole. People are wrong on both sides because they're human. Don't for a minute pretend that either sex does anything that the opposite doesn't allow. My husband couldn't have slept with his mistress if she hadn't allowed it, and she couldn't have slept with my husband if he hadn't allowed it. I contacted the woman's spouse and told him, and they're still together too. So all this shit you seem to know so much about, maybe it's time for you to take a fucking step back and think you don't actually know it all. But maybe you're not that smart. People who aren't tend to think they know it all.