[–] AnmanIndustries 2 points 2 points 4 points (+4|-2) ago
If you think the the hill you need to die on is "leave women all together" then it is probably a good thing you wouldn't reproduce. Only strong men who are smart and wise enough to identify a good woman should breed. Stupid people are going to breed anyway, so at least the smart men will have the family size to stand out amongst them.
If there is a problem, you solve it. Not run away from it. MGTOW is exactly that. And you know what it does? Adds to the decadence.
[–] BlackAdamRedLantern [S] 3 points 0 points 3 points (+3|-3) ago
You're creating statements that I never made and assumptions about me based on those statemtns.
Of course, don't leave women. Have as many as you can comfortably handle. Reproduce with as many as you are able to comfortably provide for with the most beautiful and intelligent women that you can. The dilemma appears where you can decide to either have loads of kids but not enough support so they turn out however they may, good or bad, or produce a few kids; provide stability for, protect and train them; to possibly produce successful, self-sufficient, well adjusted adults and even then other factors can change that.
Smart men don't produce often because smart men are stimulated by more than pussy. Stupid people are stimulated by less and they will fuck disproportionately more, and there are more of them, so of course they will be more prominent. Even if you do everything correctly, your few kids will then have to select from the pool of these bastards to find friends and suitable mates so your own influence only carries so far.
It is not a problem that can be solved on a macro because it is inherent in nature. Nature doesn't give a fuck about the individual. Therefore they get screwed. The only viable solution is to therefore work on making oneself and their immediate environment the best that they are able. If enough people do this then it may make a difference in the long run.
MGTOW is not running away, it is using logic to attain the best possible outcome in a game that one is dropped into. It extends into more than just sexual encounters with women. It is a deconstruction to the conditioning that has been set up and instilled in many men and encouraged in women. It is not just one thing. It is asking yourself critically in every moment, "how does this benefit me?" Then following through.
[–] AnmanIndustries 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago
I am only using you as a placeholder for the ideas you are portraying, as one would when taking sides. Yes, I would be assuming if I was purposely attacking you. I am not.
And, youve only made your whole position worse with one line:
Which is exactly what feminism is. And everything wrong with society. Family sizes are smaller because children prevent selfishness. 60-80% of people are overweight (depending on which western country), because of selfishness. People get divorced so often, because of selfishness. Marriages start their stead decline because of selfishness. Everything that is ruining the world today is because people are going, fuck every one else, I just want to do what I want.
MGTOW isnt just "how does this benefit me", its purposely designed to push the almost smart men who are on the fence, over it to the wrong side.