[–] Vindicator ago
youllrememberme, you should crosspost this to v/pizzagate, just to persecute the shills. ;-) Are We Sure has been saying this never happened for a year.
[–] Are_we__sure 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
And he remains right,
Here's some of what I said a year ago.
This idea started on messageboards and twitter and then continued on the dozens of "news" sites that popped up recently. Then TruePundit put out a story purporting to quote an "anonymous NYPD chief" saying the laptop would put Hillary Clinton away for life and it turned his stomach and that the NYPD had the laptop and turned it over to the FBI.
There's one problem with this story. The NYPD never had the laptop. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/22/us/politics/james-comey-election.html?_r=0
The Trump campaign would go on to hype this story. Erik Prince (serving as an unofficial advisor to the Trump campaign) went on Trump campaign CEO's Steve Bannon's radio show and backed this story up claiming high level sources at 1 Police Plaza
I started looking deeper into this a month ago. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1747104
and did a thorough examination of the claims here.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1774406
The New York Times is out with a giant story James Comey over the past year. It covers the Clinton investigation, Loretta Lynch, Trump/Russia, Weiner. So here's what we can now reconfirm* the NY office of the FBI got the laptop, the NYPD is not mentioned whatsoever in the investigation.
This conclusion remains correct.
[–] MolochHunter 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
I'll repost my comment here from the Pizzagate post , shill that I am ;)
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How much fucking confirmation bias must you have for this?
22/9 Daily mail carries a story with a whole bunch of sexting data from THE GIRLS phone
Weiner panics, 23/9 gives his hardware to Granite
The warrant is issued on 26/9 . It does say 'any law enforcement officer' - so I take that to mean it is possible the NYPD did the raid on Granite, not FBI
BUT The NY Post and Washington Post put out stories on 30/9 saying FBI has the laptop, and there's Hillary emails on it
thats a 4 day window in which they have to 1) execute the raid 2) take it back to the NYPD cop shop 3) get authority to check its contents 4) surrender it to the FBI 5) FBI assesses its contents 6) report on that to the Media
i suppose its possible, just, but that's a very narrow time frame
but I keep coming back to this: We have no public statement DIRECTLY from NYPD corroborating Eric Prince's claim, and Eric is one dodgy motherfucker. Every other person who repeated the 'insurance file' claim is downstream from Eric Prince, no independent verification
Now, when the 'Steele Dossier' paid for by Hillary is the only sole piece of evidence of 'muh collusion' and Robert Mueller hasnt substantiated it from ANY OTHER INDEPENDENT source, I roll my eyes at those who still push the collusion narrative
applying the same standard of evidence, I roll my eyes at the 'insurance file' claims because we similarly have no independent verification of Eric Prince's claims, and we have very solid evidence showing that the window of opportunity for the NYPD AT BEST was very, very, narrow
NYPD SVU were looking into it because of what was disclosed to Daily Mail.
and the Victim was in NORTH CAROLINA - this means the NYPD may have been compromising the case if they looked into it because of their Jurisdiction Limitation - so it would have been wiser for them to leave it to the Feds anyway
Occams razor still tells us the greater likelihood that NYPD never had it
[–] Vindicator ago
I'll repost my comment here from the Pizzagate post , shill that I am ;)
I don't think you are a shill, MH. I think it's the back-and-forth discussion on this subject that makes us a great source of truth-finding. Thank you for presenting your point of view.
[–] Are_we__sure 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
Every other person who repeated the 'insurance file' claim is downstream from Eric Prince, no independent verification
Actually this claim started as anonymous comment on twitter and I'm almost certain it was a joke the autists and the outragists missed, It something like "I heard the emails were in a folder called Life Insurance"
Eric is one dodgy motherfucker.
And we now know he was working with the Trump campaign. If you look at his story or the TruePundit story today, there's only one way they make sense. It was political ratfucking. That terms goes back to watergate. Roger Stone got his start in politics as a ratfucker. Richard Nixon got the opponent he wanted in 1972 because he got a stronger candidate kicked out. Someone on his campaign sent a fake letter to the press claiming they heard him make racists comments against...wait for it....French Canadians in Maine.
Occams razor still tells us the greater likelihood that NYPD never had it
Absolutely true. Also read those stories today. It's every hope and dream of Hillary Clinton haters in one place. Weiner's laptop is the like Ark of the Covenant.
Also anyone on the NYPD who actually had this info and wanted to make a splash before the election would not leak it fringe media like TruePundit and Infowars, they would leak it to the NY Press who would go apeshit with it. Occam's Razor applies here too.
[–] think- 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Thank you for this, MH.
I think this is the same stance @Honeybee_ takes.
[–] Honeybee_ 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago (edited ago)
Federal Employee, Potential Classified Documents, never a legit quote from a named source... the SVU--> "General Crimes" is not the NYPD, it is District Attorney and Federal Prosecutions...
The Search and Seizure Warrant states that Granite Intelligence had it from the beginning and it was documented as being located and confiscated by the FBI between September 23 and October 3rd 2016...
Believe me, I understand what this new information does to the alt media narrative we've been falling back on since Prince and True Pundit released the article... we can make hypothesis after hypothesis all day long, but the story that NYPD saw some abhorrent child porn snuff and leaked it to the press is not provable and relies on the quote that an unnamed NYPD CHIEF saw images to make him throw up.
Maybe the NYPD could have possibly had the laptop before it even went to Granite Intelligence, that would make more sense, but the time line doesn't match up with the storyline and there is currently not one NYPD warrant, police complaint or documentable proof that NYPD soley had this case at anytime prior to or after FBI confiscation.
Did they help with interviews, research, and man power under the control of the FBI investigation, absolutely... did they have the laptop availabe for review while under the control of FBI...according to the ESI agreement through the courts and detailed in the search and seizure warrant, yes. But it was wiped guys... if there was child porn aka (insurance file kind of stuff), it's gone and was not used to prosecute him. Granite Intelligence was the same security firm run by a man, David McDonnough, who worked with Kroll Security firm. Kroll and Black Cube helped Harvey Weinstein most likely get out of CP or CSE charges and only take the fall for sexual harrassment.
Google "James Oneil NYPD weiner laptop"... Nothing.
Google "William Bratton NYPD weiner laptop"... Nothing.
No quotes from either Police Chief of the NYPD around that time in 2016. These stories, imho, are misreported, I don't trust unnamed, undocumentable sources, I feel bad, but we have court docs telling a different story with dates, times, names, and case numbers.
"Sources" Say....
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/21/nypd-anthony-weiner-sexting-minor/
https://nypost.com/2016/09/22/nypd-investigating-weiners-sexting-relationship-with-teen/
"Court Documents" Say...
https://nypost.com/2018/05/17/search-warrant-for-weiners-electronic-devices-unsealed/
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w6pyobllukq71mz/IMG_20180518_115607.jpg?dl=0
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4465430-WEINER-Search-Warrant-2016.html#document/p2
Edited: Grammatical Errors
Edited: SVU GCU updated to SVU ---> "General Crimes" for better clarification
[–] youllrememberme [S] ago (edited ago)
The SVU is NYPD and they're the ones who handle sex crimes.
How does the NYPD conduct an investigation on a sexting case without access to electronic devices?
Did they help with interviews, research, and man power under the control of the FBI investigation, absolutely... did they have the laptop availabe for review while under the control of FBI...according to the ESI agreement through the courts and detailed in the search and seizure warrant, yes. But it was wiped guys... if there was child porn, it's gone and was not used to prosecute him.
There was child porn on the computer, the feds admitted it. You're just leaning toward the respun news story.
Why didn't they prosecute him for it? Elite privilege?
Edited a couple words that sounded rude, not my intent.
[–] Honeybee_ ago (edited ago)
You wrote:
"The SVU is NYPD and they're the ones who handle sex crimes."
Yes, that is true, but in this case it seems they are seperate, its so confusing, I may be wrong, but go through this with me...
The NYPD's SVU, is seprate from DOJ Federal Law Enforcement Scroll down to "General Crimes".
In this DOJ Press release it states:
"Mr. Kim praised and thanked the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Special Victims Division of the New York City Police Department for their outstanding work. The case is being handled by the Office’s General Crimes Unit."
"General Crimes" are Federal agents. Your article is referring NYPD's Special Victim's Unit, not DOJ Office of the District Attorney, Southern District of New York, General Crimes Division
"The Office prosecutes cases involving violations of federal laws, and represents the interests of the United States government and its agencies in criminal and civil matters."
And by "child porn" I meant the insurance file type of stuff that's been circulating through the rumor mill ie. Clinton/Huma video etc.
[–] nancy_drew 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
re-examine the Granite Intelligence Management Team:
http://graniteintelligence.com/management/jeffrey-j-mueller/ ------> fbi mueller relation? http://graniteintelligence.com/management/julie-block/ -------> giuliani appointee, intimately involved with nypd... http://graniteintelligence.com/management/david-mcdonough/ ------> mcdonough--related to the judge mcdonough handling the nxivm case?
[–] Vindicator 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Thanks for adding this perspective, Honeybee_. As always, you rock. The more information we gather here and the more goat expertise we bring to bear on it, the better able we will be to discern what is really going on. 😎
[–] youllrememberme [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Something smells really fishy to me about the recent push to completly discredit his laptop. At the very least there was enough on it to make Comey reopen the email investigation and whitewash it. I pray to God that someone has a copy of that laptop. At this point @honeybee is right, all the incriminating evidence is likely wiped off of it.
[–] urbanmoving ago
correct on 2 on 1 uhhh not entirely correct in terms of say a kid being nude or almost because they got hid with white phosphorus and had to shed clothes medical treatment etc but still sick fucks would jack to it. Salacious posing nudist stuff is child porn considering the tone context and use/intent of the marketing, a video showing birth and a naked baby isn't inherently wrong but these sick fucks market that shit to "to condition" people for it
I'm 100% correct on #1. In ALL states in the US, you can have pictures of naked kids on your computer provided they aren't in a seductive or sexual pose AND you don't take sexual pleasure in looking at them. In almost all of the states, the second part of that isn't in the law and doesn't matter. A couple states like Pennsylvania could arrest one person and not another for the exact same photo on their computer. The difference is which one takes sexual pleasure in it and who doesn't. But like I said, non-sexual nudes is legal (thus why websites of nudist camps are totally legal).
[–] youllrememberme [S] 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
Maybe "forced" wasn't a great word chioce, but he was a federal employee.
[–] 12830393? 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
It can still be handled by the local police. County and State police have specialists that deal with kiddy pr0n. The only reason it would be turned over to the feds isn't because he's a federal employee but because it was either done on federally owned equipment, using federally owned services, or done on federal work time. And even it did, it'd still probably be handled by the state's attorney's office.
[–] ben_matlock 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
Excellent trio of questions. Nice post, OP!
[–] urbanmoving ago
ALSO "OUTSIDE TECHINCAL EXPERTS UNDER GOVERNMENT CONTROL"...LEOS AGENTS ITS ALL RIGHT THERE A JOINT INVESTIGATION with even "outside" people AWS is a retard.