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[–] tomyhawk 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

You are falling for the trap. Murder can only be done to fellow humans. We slaughter animals and then butcher them. The other side of the coin, these animals we eat live a very good life, they are catered to, fed, cleaned, free healthcare until one day they take a ride, then lights out. That sounds a little rough, but consider a wild animal, who starves in the winter, has no shelter, may wander around for days with a bullet or arrow in its guts - cus no healthcare, or suffer though being partially eaten before death. Of course vegans don't like to bring that up.

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[–] I_Would_Gas_You 3 points -2 points (+1|-3) ago 

Have you ever seen factory farms for chickens? Have you watched the videos where thousands of baby chickens are smothered to death to suppress disease outbreaks? The videos of the chickens in cages so small they can't move and are covered in shit because they are stacked on top of one another? How about the slaughterers who torture the cows before death? It's bullshit to claim imprisoned animals have a better life than a free animal. Why don't you commit crimes and go to prison with that mindset? Free fiod and shelter and healthcare. No one will even murder you for your flesh. Killing any living thing is murder regardless of the reasons. People are just smart animals that we can understand and empathize with. I eat meat and don't feel guilty about it but im under no illusions that a life was not taken for me to survive.

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[–] tomyhawk 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

If you eat the cheapest grocery store food you can find that may be what you are supporting. Go out and buy half a steer at a farm, or buy packaged beef from a producer, look the place over and see how they are treated. But you can stuff that murder shit up your wazoo. A few bad actors caught on camera (most of whom are illegal's or the bottom of human trash pile) do not make an industry. Most chickens do not live in cages any longer, the only time they get caged is during transport. You can fix these industry abuses with your money and how you spend it. Don't bitch about abuses if your to lazy to do it yourself, thats why these big slaughterhouses exist, no one wants to do the deed.

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[–] BakedMofoBread 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Zero fucks given, and i like animals. Killing is not the same as murder, murder by definition has to be an evil act. Ending a life in order to sustain your own without losing grey matter is not evil; it is natural and thus neutral.

I'll fucking fry and eat the gassed chicks in a goddamn egg sauce with veal and sweetmeats from the skull of a moose.

Maybe of you ate some flesh every so often, you'd have enough fat in your system for a properly working brain. Remember, kids! Any fat loss under ~5% body fat is lost from your BRAIN.