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[–] 12558426? ago 

It isn't clear to me what you are objecting to. You say

But saying "when we decided that individuals were actually important and should be respected and should have certain rights" is an stupid and dangerous idea. That is tyranny.

Are you saying that I said that discovery was dangerous? I didn't. Individuals are important and I applauded our ancestors for recognizing that. But our ancestors were part of a collective, a community, a culture that was capable of recognizing that. Values and morality are not private things, they are public, and if the community, the public that recognizes individuals, recognizes liberty is destroyed, then liberty will no longer be respected in such a society.

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[–] bisteot 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

You know what, I totally misinterpreted what you were saying then, and if that is the case I apologize.

I sincerely understood that you were implying that individual rights were not important.

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[–] 12558544? 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

No worries, I was just confused by your responses. My point is that individuals are very important but they should not be held at a higher value than the communities they comprise, because that gives any individual the power to completely disrupt the moral framework of a society. Individual liberty is important, but it should not be taken to the extreme of dismissing collectives (and by that I mean society / community) entirely.