[–] Joe_McCarthy [S] 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago (edited ago)
I can't say I have ever known anyone that had a high opinion of Turks. Even an American Communist of German ancestry I know with family in Germany can't stand them. My ex regarded Turkey as worse than Egypt with the men and their gawking and otherwise predatory behavior. Some of the worst scum may actually be Kurds though. Remember that next time you see someone playing up the Kurdish cause.
Oh, and I had a military relative almost get shot by a Turkish guard at a military base in Turkey.
My own interactions haven't been very positive either. I find them rude and culturally tone deaf.
[–] HarlandKornfeld14 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
You know Erdogan says the Kurds are going to be the majority by 2038? Is that a bit of an exaggeration? I don't know the dynamics, did disproportionately more Turks leave for Europe, creating a vacuum? Well, Turkey is undergoing a demographic shift with high Kurdish birthrates and low Turkish birthrates.
[–] Joe_McCarthy [S] ago (edited ago)
Dunno if it's an exaggeration but Turkey could potentially import Turkics from other countries to help head off the demographic crisis. Rest assured Kurds will be looking for payback if they can get it.
None of this is of any particular use to us though. If past is prologue them fighting will just drive more inflow to us.
[–] 12344269? 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago (edited ago)
There is a distinctive difference between European/big city Turks (who are much more educated, liberal, pro-secular and pro-Western), and Asian/countryside Turks (who are much more uneducated, conservative, pro-Islam and anti-Western). The immigrants to West Germany have been pre-dominately Anatolians from the Asian countryside, so Turkey wasn't exactly sending their best. Not that their best were exactly excited do dig ditches for a tiny wage.
The few European Turks I have met turned out OK and compatible enough, but they are a rarity among ex-patriates found in Germany, usually restricted to academic circles. Your average construction worker, Dönermann or hustler is much, much more likely to be of Anatolian stock and an avid supporter of Erdogan's anti-western rollback.