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[–] sabakuj 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

For example, heres my first half decent, not so much, for Felicia Day https://sendvid.com/uxpl4dni, I'd appreciate if you guys could take a look at it and see what am doing wrong, I don't know what to do when it comes to a scene where something covers the models face like on this instance the dildo covers her face in certain frames and it glitches, and I've seen others where it doesnt look bad during a bj, etc.

Should I train with the pictures that have objects near her face? When using the final target vid, for training, should I train with all the faces detected? or clean them as usual? What are the usual best settings for Blur and Kernel during the convert phase, (this probably varies depending on the case)

Mainly I wanna improve my ability so I can start posting some fakes of my own.

Thanks in advance

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[–] Robjones1234 [S] ago 

https://voat.co/user/cymbidium

this user has some pretty good tries at deepfakes with hair and stuff in the way. Maybe he can help you. He is also good at deepfaking in general. Hope his helps!

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[–] sabakuj 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Cant really message other people without CPs, can't contribute so can't get CPs lol

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[–] sabakuj 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I don't wanna be a bother, but I wanna start contributing so I thought maybe there could be a video tutorial or image tutorial, focus on the selection of good training material, examples of bad faces, not choosing duplicates, etc, since Ive been trying different models and have not gotten a great result, kinda got a half decent Emma stone, just to realize someone had used the same video and gotten it perfectly, so I must have used bad training data.

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[–] Robjones1234 [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Great idea. I'd say you should ask fakers whom you like, or experienced ones like unobtrusivebot, cercius, cymbidium etc ... They might be able to contribute. And if they could leave tips in this thread that would be cool

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[–] sabakuj 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Some facesets have pictures in cetrain angles where theres a black corner across the forhead or taken a lil part of the face, because of the movement of the video and the actress getting out of view , is it wise to train with this pictures, or would they best be removed?

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[–] ambivalenthoe 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

It's strange because the best deepfake ever is the Gal Gadot one and the model looks nearly identical but some of the new fakes ( like the new emma roberts one) you can see in the screenshot that the two look nothing alike. And yet it looks very convincing.

There seems to be something very technical going on when it overlays the original face like that. In general for newbies though, the big thing is that they look as close as possible in the scene being used. In terms of hair and (mainly) head shape but if you're not as skilled at training; the face shape needs to be a doppelganger as well. That's just what I've noticed from observation.

Also: training too long can result in overtraining, causing a reversal back to the original model. Training way longer does not mean it will be better.

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[–] Robjones1234 [S] ago 

Your observations remind me of a theory I have about deepfakes ... It works best as digital makeup. In essence, you are smoothing over one girls features with another. Your layering a different nose cheeks eyes etc over a base face. I for one am shocked that similar results could not be achieved in Photoshop as I know they have a digital makeup type feature in the software. But then again, deepfake is way more intricate than a head or face swap (which is still a convincing way of taking in its own right)

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[–] sabakuj 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Made this one with 0.02 loss values and 20 blur,10 kernel size. Any thoughts Not Evangeline Lily. Any points would help into being able to finally submit properly. Thanks :D

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[–] Robjones1234 [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Looks like her quite a bit. A couple frames it goes off kilter, but very good likeness for most of it. Can u just post a thread? I'm sure you'd get upvotes

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[–] sabakuj 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Wont let me post a thread without at least 10 points

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[–] Robjones1234 [S] ago  (edited ago)

Thanks for the repost! And thanks for answering the bj question on the other thread. I hope you get some good results soon so we can see what you've been up to 👍

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[–] FeepDakeNoob 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I think the three most important things are:

1) quality of training data: Blurred or obstructed faces should be tossed from your training set. A few hundred quality images will get you better results than 5,000 crappy images.

2) model selection: You touched on this one and it's important. Your models should be as similar as possible if you are aiming for realism. Head shape is probs the most important aspect of this. Trying to swap a face from a round faced person to someone with a long narrow face is not ever going to look good. Skin tone can be a factor too.

3) Realistic expectations: Thinking that this software is perfect and ready to go out of the box is a total fantasy. We're a long way off. Thinking that you can dive into this without some intermediate knowledge and computer troubleshooting skills probably will be a very frustrating journey for you. Also, thinking that you can crank out a perfect video in a day using a graphics card from 2014 is a mistake. This stuff takes a lot of time and trial and error.

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[–] Robjones1234 [S] ago 

Good points all around! I also think people don't try to vary the celeb facial expressions enough. The worst is when you got a good deepfake going and she leaned back and the effect is totally lost. I suppose if the pornstar looks similar already, it may mask this but when it's bad... ITS BAD.

Anyway, rdcy fakes on Tumblr found a scene where Gal Gadot tilts her head back and closes her eyes. He used it for a headswap but it's exactly the kind of thing more deepfakers need to have in their arsenal if they are ever going to take it to the next level