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[–] AndrewBlazeIt 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

The main question I have is "Do big cities attract crazies, or does living in big cities drive people insane?"

Cus it's one or the other.

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[–] 2calculated 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Cities have jobs and "affordable" living.

It would take a man's entire life to save up and find property and build your own agricultural estate and be self sufficient.

I would have retired to a simple life of independence long ago if it was feasible

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[–] Belisarius505 [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Urban areas aren't exactly that much better for young people today. Take out student loans in order to qualify for those jobs, then take out a mortgage to afford a home, live your entire life paying off the debt you signed onto in your 20's. Granted, in today's economy urban areas are the job centers, not rural farming communities. It's not entirely out of our control to change this dynamic though.

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[–] CheeseboogersGhost 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I've always lived by this.

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[–] Kgls 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Case study...see pol pot 1970s cambodia.

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[–] Tevelyn 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Or maybe being an independent farmer is one of the most awful and horrid lives a human can live and farmers worked 14 hours a day year around just to survive and still died if there was a flood or drought. Fuck that.

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[–] Belisarius505 [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I don't know about that, the farmers I know are some of the happiest bunch and while they do work a good deal so does anyone that's trying to get ahead in life.

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[–] Tevelyn 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

What do they farm, where? How many government subsidies do they have to get to stay afloat? Farming today is not what farming was 50+ years ago. And while I agree that rural society is better for humans than urban, I hate the romanticized vision of farming so many people seem to have.