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[–] ScreaminMime 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

I don't know where you think it flips every decade, Liberals [yes the term is the opposite of it's traditional meaning but that's EXACTLY what Liberals do] have been for MORE government in our lives since Wilson.

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[–] tendiesonfloor 4 points -1 points (+3|-4) ago 

'Liberal' mostly stands for

And here I thought I was going to go an entire day here without some pedantic cunt lecturing me on 'muh classical liberalism'.

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[–] 12083888? 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

That seems unwarranted. Words matter, and liberal is not the appropriate word to describe people who hate liberty.

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[–] lemon11 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

We are naturally divided by things such as the desires to extinguish self-defense and the desire to defend ourselves. What these terms do is divide politics in a different way and provide a linguistic handle on the divide to control it.

Labels aren't the problem, but using over-worn labels which are just weapons for the enemy may be a big problem. It's useful to reason about our own ideas in abstractions.