[–] 12036232? 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago
But remember, they can't find Americans who are qualified to do the job. Interesting that some make less than $60K a year. Those are supposed to be harder to get approved as the "no questions asked" rule is pay them $60K a year or they have a Masters or higher degree.
Any data on this for major companies, excepting H1-Bs?
What you're saying used to be true, because game development had a huge allure. But I'd imagine the rise of independent development and the increasing 'corporatism' of big developers has gone a long way towards destroying that allure.
[–] Schreiber ago (edited ago)
So have you actually worked in the industry?
It's actually not hard for a qualified American to get those tech job, and they have it much easier than the pajeets. Company actually need to spend money and shit to even apply for H1B.
H1B stealing jobs from qualified white american male is very rare and is always attributed to nepotism (pajeet manager hiring pajeets). Most of the "tech" jobs are actually lost due to diversity hiring fellow Americans, mostly white/asian women or blacks/browns.
There is a myth that "immigrants" are stealing all the tech jobs. The reality is that American companies are moving their tech jobs overseas so they can spend less on wages. H1Bs are not necessarily high priority because the govt basically forces those company to pay them American salary. Basically there are 3 reasons of favoring H1B: nepotism by pajeet manager, the fact that a particular H1B is actually a good worker, or the fact that H1B have less rights and thus more "dependent" and therefore loyal to the company.
I know it's easy for people to blame loss of jobs to H1B but really, H1B quota is quite small if you look at the big picture. Women and shitskin citizens are the ones stealing all your jobs, because they always get the job even when much less qualified.
[–] 12038816? 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Game industry? No. But I work in tech and it is not a myth that Indians are stealing jobs. There are repeated cases of companies laying off entire departments and replacing them with contractors from Cognizant and others (Disney, Aflac, etc). Usually they say the people can keep their jobs after the change but it always requires reapplying and taking a huge pay cut. I myself have watched most of my tech coworkers be replaced by either onshore (or worse offshore) contractors. The problem is that the limit is $60K or a Masters degree and the government accepts it without question. IT jobs usually pay way more than $60K and companies usually see IT as a cost center only, which means the first place they look to save costs is IT.
[–] badruns 1 point 3 points 4 points (+4|-1) ago (edited ago)
60 fucking pajeets working at Valve. No wonder they haven't done anything noteworthy in 5 years.
What is this, 1000-2000 H1B workers taking jobs tens of thousands of Americans would give their left testicle to do, totaling hundreds of millions of dollars in lost income that otherwise would be going to Americans. This shit is systemic.
[–] rwbj 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
You need to compare the rates for California (where many of these companies are based) to comparable rates to understand what's going on.
Salaries for Ubisoft San Francisco from this page. Doesn't look too bad: $60k to $112k for a non-senior software engineer, averaging out at around $80k. That would be a pretty fair salary in most parts of the country. San Francisco is not most parts of the country.
Salaries for non-senior software engineers in San Francisco, on average. $80k to $141k with an average salary of $111k.
And H1-Bs are supposed to be the best and brightest coming to fill roles that are impossible to fill domestically, which would generally imply high salaries. And on a related note this is why you'll see 'entry level engineer' jobs requiring years of experience and knowledge of industry specific professional technologies. 'Oh no, we can't fill it domestically, guess we need to import a worker! Heh heh!!' And it's not only the salary, but also the control. Imported workers generally are aiming for citizenship, and if they lose their job they can end up losing years of work geared towards that. With that relationship, companies can comfortably make completely arbitrary demands of these workers knowing that they can't ever say no.
Ubisoft audio engineer job listing requirements:
They're putting requirements out there that would be more indicative of a senior audio engineer, but they will offer entry level wages. They'll fill the role if they can, but aren't particularly concerned about it since they can just import a foreign worker with all the benefits that entails for them. Now let's look at SpaceX. SpaceX has a endless supply of top notch people wanting to work for them, but what's different is that they legally cannot hire foreign workers due to national regulations relating to 'arms', which rockets qualify as.
SpaceX GNC engineering job requirements:
GNC engineers are guidance, navigation, and control - the guys that write the code that brings a rocket from hurtling through space at thousands of miles an hour to landing on a rocking barge that's moving around in the middle of the ocean. And all those requirements are met by nothing more than a basic aerospace engineering degree. That's a company that genuinely wants people applying and will be imminently filling that role, domestically.
[–] RevanProdigalKnight 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
And on a related note this is why you'll see 'entry level engineer' jobs requiring years of experience and knowledge of industry specific professional technologies.
This. This is the problem with the vast majority of software companies - H.R. departments in particular for finding that "loophole" in the law and exploiting it.
[...] but what's different is that they legally cannot hire foreign workers due to national regulations relating to 'arms', which rockets qualify as.
There are several other industries which have contracts that require "Hire American", such as DOD contracts and much of healthcare, thanks to PHI restrictions, but the healthcare industry is in a bubble right now, and most jobs around DOD contracts, etc. are either highly specialized in their own right (e.g.: signal analysis) or are in market locations that are particularly saturated with software engineers already.
Healthcare programming still happens with H1B and offshore employees. It isn't the code that falls under restrictions, it is the data. As long as they have no access to live data they can do whatever they want. Companies keep small staff of citizens for production support and allow contractors to handle code and test items.
[–] digg- [S] 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
'cmon Jeff Sessions, stop fucking around with pot and start clamping down on the H-1Bs!