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[–] greenfascist 2 points 17 points (+19|-2) ago 

false. Kids are not creative geniuses. They have active imaginations.

Do not conflate the two. They are related, but not the same.

Kids do not have the depth of knowledge acquired through years of experience to be creative geniuses.

I can't believe I even have to type these sentences. I pray for a nuclear holocaust every day.

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[–] Crensch 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

"Oh hey, kids are more likely to find something amazing by being idiot lemmings that will try literally anything if left unsupervised. Given an infinite number of kids and infinite time, every creative thing ever will totally happen."

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[–] KarateCowboy 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Exactly.

"Sing a magic song that summons a flying elephant fairy to bring food to the poor people!" -- very creative. Not at all practical.

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[–] HuginnOgMuninn ago 

I guess using nuclear power to exterminate jews is as good a way as any.

But seriously, the upvote to downvote ratio on this is terrible and a few of these comments here actually terrify me and beckon me to leave this site never to return.

There are a fucktonne of crackpots and misfits who've left their kids out of the educational system, and they aren't all growing up to become Musks or Newtons or Beethovens, the trend is actually in the other direction, towards alienation, detachment, general crackpottery.

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[–] mudbear ago 

Agreed. Education for the most part is reading, writing and mathematics. Reading and writing require certain rules to be followed else we end up retarded sturcture lanwidge nd cant ppl nderstand wat u r seyin Maths just outright rules out some creative solutions due to logic getting in the way of fantasy. The only thing i think schools need to keep their noses out of is culture (promoting one over another) and historical interpretation (the holohoax etc). The only indoctrination i experienced at highschool was in social studies, which covered history and introduced me to the holohoax -_-

This just seems like some pointless finger pointing to me, no doubt things could be better but this is hardly productive. Also, leaving schooling entirely up to the school is a big problem here, if parents arent parenting, which INVOLVES teaching, then its THEM that are failing the children, not the teachers.

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[–] NeoGoat ago 

Why do you pray for a nuclear holocaust? Are you very picky? Would you be happy if an asteroid destroyed civilization? How about a plague? An alien invasion seems like it would be entertaining, with the sci-fi element and all.

I do agree with the first part of your comment. Of course, some kids are smart and some are too dumb to create anything but poop.

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[–] YouKnowItIKnowIt ago 

When I was growing up kids were specifically shamed for having an imagination.

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[–] RickC-137 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I like how they don't talk about the methods used at all.

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[–] mudbear 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

indeed, what basis are they using for creative genius? from what im going to assume, creative genius to these people are impractical solutions that fix nothing, then education slowly teaches them why having marshmallow paved roads is a bad thing they stop coming up with these 'creative' ideas and instead think more along the lines of paving the roads with something robust, durable and cheap.

Without knowing what they use to qualify creative genius as, you cant say whether reducing 'creative geniuses' is a good or a bad thing, hell using my example, it could be the best thing to happen for them

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[–] ZardoZ2017 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

One of the few TED talks i ever liked is Ken Robinson making a compelling case for how schools are killing creativity. The best 11m41sec video that nails it in many ways. https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=zDZFcDGpL4U

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[–] Wonder_Boy 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Came here to share this. Well done.

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[–] HillBoulder ago 

I tell you what was soul crushing was hearing the teacher every fucking morning at the same time in the same way "pull out your religion text books please." First thing every day it was mine numbing torture, I'm not sure if I ever fully recovered.

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[–] WhiteRonin ago 

The difference is desks. Some kids like the military system. Many don’t. It was a game of averages until it was researched.

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[–] KarateCowboy ago 

I am skeptical of this for two reasons:

1 ) Creative and innovative does not mean effective and practical. "Use a magic elephant to bring food to the poor people" is creative, but not practical.

2) Correlation does not mean causation. It could be that such a decline is caused entirely by the system, entirely natural, or a mix of both.

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[–] bman0321 ago 

Based on what? The authors make it sound like new 5 year old kindergarten class are inventing calculus every year until they are taught arithmetic. Accordingly the uneducated should be crushing life, and the dark ages should actually be the Renaissance. What backwards logic, sjws invading another field.

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