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[–] aboutime ago 

LOL

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[–] 0iamlordeyayaya0 0 points 25 points (+25|-0) ago 

Cash for clunkers was terrible for low income people too. Used to be tons of running vehicles for sale for a couple hundred bucks. Now they're scrap.

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[–] RoBatten 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

It was a gift to auto dealers and manufacturers.

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[–] tendiesonfloor 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Close. It was a gift to the UAW.

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[–] cthulian_axioms 0 points 36 points (+36|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Fuck "Cash for Clunkers". Fuck it so hard. The only effect of that bill was to take solid, pre-ECU, field-repairable vehicles off the road and replace them with cheap plastic bubbles that require expensive trips to the mechanic, because only the mechanic has the fucking software to talk to the ECU. Fuck that.

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[–] unclejimbo 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

(Laughs in mechanic)

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[–] BobTodd 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

Seriously lost a fucking ton of great project cars to that shit. Sold for less than scrap in many cases.

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[–] cthulian_axioms 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago  (edited ago)

EXACTLY

And it's not like they dismantled them all for parts -- honestly they could have made a fucking fortune doing that -- the cars were destroyed. Destroyed. Not recycled, not rebuilt, destroyed. They didn't even keep the fucking steel. They crushed them in compactors and threw the result in fucking landfills. That was a big red pill for me. Those blue-tie fuckers say they love the fucking environment. Bullshit. That's a fucking bullshit lie. And the damage can never be undone. Never. Even now, eight or ten years later, I'm still viscerally disgusted with what they did. I wish they all had one big neck, so I could wrap a timing belt around it and choke the life out of every single one of them all at once.

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[–] patriot_biz 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Yeah, I wish some young entrepreneur or other would bring back classical car designs, by which I mean something that I could do the maintenance on. I miss working on my car.

=-(

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[–] AinzOown 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago 

I love how they credit Obama for the economy's sharp rise under Trump. "See, the 8 years was just the groundwork. It doesn't really start showing until right after he leaves office."

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[–] BlackGrapeDrank 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Obongo and the dems had 8 years to do something. Their focus wasn't economic growth for america, it was to push globalisms. just like bush and Clinton before him.

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[–] unclejimbo 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Well they blamed Bush whenever something bad happened under Obama, so I can't say I'm surprised.

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[–] foltaisaprovenshill 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

"Just ignore those pro-business and pro-American-worker changes Trump has made, things like that don't affect the economy"

The level of retard with leftists is astronomical.

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[–] acheron2012 5 points 7 points (+12|-5) ago  (edited ago)

That's an unfortunate analogy. The Sherman tank was, arguably, the worst tank of WW II. It's main design features were that it could be MASS constructed on the cheap. And since it lacked any meaningful armor protection you could transport a lot of them at a time.

When I was younger we had a neighbor that had been a Sherman tank driver in Europe. He had 4 of them blown out from under him. He said he was practically the only survivor from his entire group. In many ways a Sherman tank was a Kamikaze plane that didn't fly. At the Aberdeen museum in Maryland I saw a Panzer that had a direct hit from a Sherman - it looked like someone had scooped out a big chunk of armor with a giant ladle. Sherman's main gun could not defeat panzer armor unless fired at the weakest points at point blank range

Although the analogy may end up being pretty accurate when the "average American voter" finds out his taxes are going up with this bill.

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[–] jamesed 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

While the Sherman had many flaws it also had its strong points. It's first advantage was it was reliable. In most tank on tank combat on the western front up to 80% of all German armor was dead lined do to maintenance problems. The Sherman had a 90% availability rate in most Tank battalions. The second advantage of the Sherman was its range. A Sherman could run for up to 6 hours on a single tank of fuel. The German Panzers had a range of only about an hour. You must also remember that the Sherman was designed to combat the Panzer Kamph Wagen II and III of which it was a match. When the Germans introduced the Panzer Kamph Wagen IV the Sherman was outclassed. How ever the Panzerkamphwagen IV were made by three different companies in Germany and none of the parts were interchangeable. There were about 8500 PKW IV's produced during the war compared to 49,234 Sherman's. You also must figure in the ease of construction on war materials and the standardization of Parts allowed all but the most severely damaged Sherman' s to be quickly repaired and returned to service. The Sherman also had it's ammo stored in a water filled compartment so when it was hit the ammo did not explode like on the German tanks. According to official U.S. army records for the First Army from D-Day to the end of the war the First army lost 898 Sherman's to all causes with a causality of 848, Or about 25% of the crew of each tank destroyed. So the actual numbers does not live up to the Myth. It seems to be an American Trait that the enemy is armed with better weapons that we have. See the ongoing argument about the AK-47 vs the M-16. Yet when you give a ISIS fighters in the Mid East a choice he ditches his trusty AK for a M4.

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[–] tarnished_spoons 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

It seems to be an American Trait that the enemy is armed with better weapons that we have.

I think it has to do with propaganda. How can we be the bad guys if we're the underdogs?

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[–] foltaisaprovenshill 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Although the analogy may end up being pretty accurate when the "average American voter" finds out his taxes are going up with this bill.

Too bad this has no basis in fact, and almost everyone will be seeing a tax cut of a few thousand per year.

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[–] GrandmasWarmPie 3 points -2 points (+1|-3) ago 

and almost everyone will be seeing a tax cut of a few thousand per year.

"almost everyone" is a funny way of spelling "Jewish saboteurs".

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[–] Flour 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

How are my taxes going up?

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[–] foltaisaprovenshill 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

It won't, he's lying.

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[–] acheron2012 2 points 1 point (+3|-2) ago  (edited ago)

The base rate for the middle class remains basically unchanged. But we will pay modestly more (MY guess is between $500 and $3000 a year) due to the elimination of deductions.

It is not crippling. But it make things worse than they are now. I would love to be wrong. But am quite certain I am not.

Any REAL tax reform would have to start with making the 48% of the population (that receives 99% of federal handouts) pay ANYTHING AT ALL! There is no moral defense whatsoever for utter freeloaders. If they paid even $100 / year it would at least make them participate in funding the system they so wantonly abuse.

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[–] redsedfred 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

It's going to take a bit of time but it will. Who else will fund the payments to the super wealthy and corporations?

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[–] SChalice 3 points 0 points (+3|-3) ago 

As if recovering the economy from Bush was a cakewalk.

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[–] Sullysq 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

You call doubling the debt and exploding inflation a recovery?

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[–] edistojim 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

How bout the "tax and spend" democrat economy?

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[–] Sharipie 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

is this a hint that the Senate is not gonna pass tax reform and they're gonna blame Republicans?

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[–] Tallest_Skil 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

They passed it last night. It goes to the house now, right? Or did it start there?

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[–] Sharipie 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I believe it's the ither way around. Starts in the House, then goes to the Senate.

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[–] ShinyVoater 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

The House has already passed a version of it as well. Now all that remains is to reconcile the two.

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[–] Joker68 1 point 12 points (+13|-1) ago 

The truth hurts

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[–] stayawayfrommybutt ago 

"Facts don't care about your feelings."

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[–] GrandmasWarmPie 3 points -1 points (+2|-3) ago 

The Trump administration is compromised by Jews and the only long-term beneficiaries to this tax plan will be elite Jews who off-shore wealth in tax-havens.

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[–] Queerness2 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

That is what I say everyday.

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