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[–] SwimmingInAFishbowl ago 

It doesn't. People find the path of least resistance. The incentive to not be a lazy cunt is that you aren't a lazy cunt. If people don't get that no gamified system of anything will deincentivise it.

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[–] MereVoat ago 

I think we need to remove these joke subverses as the default.

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[–] Arotaes_Forgehammer 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

A "lazy" button. Like the report button, but if a large enough amount of people mark it as such, it gets tagged with [Lazy].

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[–] Ujo [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

That's an interesting thought. A separate way to express the sentiment without down voting.

My gut feeling is that labeling posts as lazy won't accomplish much, though. By the time a post has gotten enough views for people to label it as lazy, it'll still be the same post with the same visibility. The difference is now the person who posted it feels bad without any tangible benefits to the community.

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[–] Arotaes_Forgehammer ago 

The guilt will be palpable. It will make the shit poster try and make more of an effort. It's like a badge of shame. Maybe we could have a lazy count on their profile.

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[–] i_ate_them_whole 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I agree that the front page seems saturated with poor content, but I still like the small hurdle to get full access to the sites features.

I know it's something of a sin to mention it, but I was at Reddit for 2 years and didn't contribute with a single comment. Conversely, after only a few weeks here at Voat I finally made my very first post today and am finding that it's not as intimidating after taking that first step. The full site features were incentive enough to push me to contribute to the site!

That's my personal experience. I see your point with all the terrible posts, but I think that those are always going to be the symptom of a democratized system of visibility. The good content is still in there, you just gotta avoid the bad subs like /v/funny and /v/gifs

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[–] Ujo [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

It does discourage downvoting, which is a great feature of the community. But I would have to disagree about encouraging upvoting.

There's a clear incentive for commenting. You get CCP, and CCP gives you upvotes and downvotes. Awesome! Now instead, a user logs on and has only so many upvotes he can give. For giving one, he promotes something he's already seen. Then... nothing? Why should he spend any on anyone's post? There's no incentive for upvoting, and a limit is somewhat of a deterrence as well.

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[–] leetdood 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I think the main issue here in what you're describing is we don't have enough established voters. As more and more people become able to vote as much as they want, this will become less and less of an issue. At least, that's my opinion. It wasn't really that hard to get 20 points on here.

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[–] ENTP 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I think the easiest way to fix this problem is to increase the amount of upvoats you can give in a day. There are just TOO many comments and not enough votes to go around. I'll often see great comments that are still at 0 points or at 1 point. There is just currently no incentive to stand out with a quality comment, when you have the one-liners and low-quality comments nearly reaching the same amount of upvoats as the thought-out responses.

This also fixes the issue of people trying to RUSH to 20 CCP or 100 CCP. With more voats going out, you only need a few great comments to reach these marks. Compared to still having to write out 20 or 100 shitty comments to reach the same goal.

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[–] Beers ago 

What if votes instead diminished in value with how many you used that day? So you have 10 or 20 "votes" per day, but you can vote on as many things as you want, your votes just don't have as much weight. If you vote on everything, your votes end up being like 0.01 of a vote or whatever

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[–] Ujo [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Exactly! Voat incentivizes commenting and discourages (albeit, only slightly) upvoting.

If someone has already said what I wanted to say, I think my upvote adds a lot more than a separate comment. More people see what I agree with, and the people looking through all of it don't have to read the same thing twice.