[–] Uncle_Tractor 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Problem: A tyrannical govt won't come rolling on on tanks; it'll be elected by way of corrupt politicians. By the time you realize it's a tyranny, it'll be too late. Guns won't help.
(may be useful for dealing with thugs though)
[–] middle_path 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
How would it be too late? You can't police the streets with tanks and helicopters.
[–] Uncle_Tractor ago
The govt won't need to police the streets when 1) a large chunk of the civilians will do it for them (ref Ceausescu's Romania), and 2) the govt can police the internet and phones instead. Dissidents will have unfortunate accidents before they manage to cause any trouble.
[–] fusir 0 points 7 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago (edited ago)
And the way a tyranny typically interacts with citizens is with police via indictments for crimes that are unjust. If you mean to fight back that means resisting arrest and shooting. They won't send the national guard. That would make you a hero. They'll send cops and make you look like a dick for breaking a law they've brainwashed most of the population to agree with. Hell, 3/4 of voat will be against you.
The drug war is not supported by 6/7 Americans, yet voat called a guy a dick when police enforced a law. You better believe if they imposed speech laws, the tyranny voat most fears, or communism, that anyone who fought back would be denigrated by voat.
[–] captainstrange ago (edited ago)
And the way a tyranny typically interacts with citizens is with police via indictments for crimes that are unjust.
This is what most people don't understand.
If you mean to fight back that means resisting arrest and shooting.
The bullet box is the last box for a reason.
They won't send the national guard. That would make you a hero.
Oh, they can and they will if you put up enough resistance.
They'll send cops and make you look like a dick for breaking a law
SWAT, or cops that have been militarized
or breaking a law they've brainwashed most of the population to agree with.
There are only a few successful ways to 'fix' brainwashing.
Red pills
More effective propaganda--or counter brainwashing
Organizational indoctrination and peer pressure. Put a liberal in the police force? Suddenly they are a lot less keen on drugs. Put a peacenik in the army, suddenly they are a lot more understanding of foreign policy.
Social organization with top down values--churchs promote family values because those who rely on them conform or face ostracism. Universities promote liberalism because those who rely on them conform or face ostracism, etc.
Basically all of these are non-violent variations of carrot-and-stick incentives.
Hell, 3/4 of voat will be against you.
Who is against you is less important than who is for you.
The drug war is not supported by 6/7 Americans, yet voat called a guy a dick when police enforced a law.
If getting called a dick is all it takes to demotivate you then this war stuff might not be for you.
You better believe if they imposed speech laws, the tyranny voat most fears, or communism, that anyone who fought back would be denigrated by voat.
Most people, probably all of us, are susceptible to propaganda, and the better you become at producing it the better you become at recognizing it.
[–] VelvetLurker69 1 point 12 points 13 points (+13|-1) ago
I like the cut of your jib, good sir!
[–] Alpha_Voat_Protecter 0 points 12 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago
It's the cut of our founders' jib. Just look at the letter they wrote to a captain of an American ship about how the 2nd Amendment completely applies to the cannon on the captain's ship.
[–] NonyaBidness 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
...and the state to be disarmed. No standing armies.