[–] JonReeeeed 1 point 4 points 5 points (+5|-1) ago
honestly, from the get go i simply believed they didn't have the information nor personnel capable of properly evaluating the situation
[–] crashing_this_thread 0 points 7 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago
Jeez, they really are making a lot of mistakes.
[–] Othmar_Regin 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago (edited ago)
He clearly did not have a tactical vest or any tactical clothes, so the only way for him to swap mags was from a table or the floor and he had next to zero training with guns so even reloading a mag would take him like 5sec(swap mag realign shot) *40mags = 200sec or 3.5min for 1200 rounds(30 each) would take 1/3 of the alleged 10min of shooting
And he was an older guy with a questionable physique, so to take 1200 rounds while swapping mags and aiming and realigning shots would basically be more than he's body was capable of physically, even if he pulled that off he'd probably be dead of a heart attack after.
[–] l_voated_today 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago (edited ago)
He could have used coffin magazines or some such, not that there aren't still big holes in the official story, just saying.
Edit: in this photo you can see a coffin mag in one rifle and what looks like a big pile of others next to the pillar
[–] 11168654? [S] 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago (edited ago)
Those mags look unused and we've already seen the picture of the table with loaded unused mags on it. It doesn't make sense that he'd simply quit shooting unless he accomplished his goal... whatever that was.
Interesting that he'd use a bipod without having something to rest it on... I guess he just wanted it to look more menacing when they found it later.
Hmmm... that AR on the right does not have a bump stock. The one on the left MIGHT but it doesn't look like it. It's hard to tell if the stock is connected to the grip.
[–] 11168404? [S] 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago (edited ago)
I'm not sure about the zero training. If he truly used bump stocks, he had years of experience with them because I have not seen a single youtube video of anyone shooting them with consistency or regularity. He managed to shoot them all perfectly... which is physically impossible. Bump stocks suck and you usually can only get small bursts with one before it stops shooting. According to police, he'd been buying guns for over a decade so I'm sure he'd been shooting for as long.
I'm not saying you can't shoot 1100 rounds in 9 minutes. I could do it without a bump stock, reloading mags from a table as he did. I'm saying he ONLY shot 1100 rounds and had such amazing fucking accuracy. And if he shot 1100 rounds, why wasn't there 1100 shell casings? Or even 100 shell casings?
Here's a video of a guy shooting a stationary target 1200 yards away with .223. He couldn't hit it 50% of the time shooting slowly and methodically. I won't even get into the fact that after 1000 yards the .223 doesn't have enough velocity to kill someone... ESPECIALLY with store bought ammo. I'm definitely not getting into the fact that there was enough wind that night at that elevation that the bullet would be tumbling after about 1/2 that distance.
[–] Oh_Well_ian 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
more like 65% accuracy according to the LVPD
[–] Othmar_Regin 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSizVpfqFtw (ULTIMATE AR-15 MELTDOWN) - took about 5min to break an AR-15 with full auto so he would have to have used 3 guns minimum
[–] ravensedgesom 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago (edited ago)
all with shitty bumpfire. AR's heat up really easily unlike an AKM.
[–] 11168452? [S] 0 points 7 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago
He wasn't shooting that fast. He also wasn't reloading that fast. The barrel of his guns wouldn't have gotten anywhere near that hot. I can shoot all day at the rate he shot and not worry about burning up an AR15. He only NEEDED one AR15 to do what he supposedly did. I suppose if I were him I'd have brought a couple spares in case of a malfunction but he didn't NEED to have 3 at a minimum. He could have very easily done it all with 1.
[–] ravensedgesom 0 points 6 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago
more evidence of fakery I mean its been fucking weeks and they still don't have a believable story. No wonder they suddenly curtailed any coverage of LV details.
[–] Oh_Well_ian 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
far more effort was put into collecting money for 'victims' than seeking JUSTICE for them
[–] ravensedgesom 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago (edited ago)
interesting how that works isn't it?
[–] Cheesebooger 1 point 17 points 18 points (+18|-1) ago
Still waiting for all of the HDCCTV footage. There's more cameras in Vegas than anywhere else! Fucking jews
[–] 11168495? [S] 0 points 12 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago
Yep. I have a cop buddy who's federal. He said that the top floor or two of that hotel was occupied by high rolling Saudis. I want to see the footage of who goes in and out of his room for the entire time he was checked in. Odd that they haven't shown it by now to prove to everyone he was the lone shooter.
WAY too many people just believe what they first hear and move on with their lives.
[–] sunshine702 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
Sadly Mandalay does NOT have hallway cameras :( But there should be at least gambling and check in footage.
[–] Kregan 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
@Cheesebooger- Even if there were some truth to MGM "NOT" showing Paddock loading the guns/luggage because of insurance liability. There would have to be some other video showing something of significance and the fact that there is NOTHING whatsoever is beyond strange!!!
[–] sunshine702 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago (edited ago)
There are absolutely camera footage of him checking in, playing his video poker machine and paying his $80,000 marker at the casino cage. Yes two months out to not have any footage or ballistics is fucking hogwash!!
[–] ravensedgesom 1 point 3 points 4 points (+4|-1) ago (edited ago)
Jews like chertoff and adelson and trying to profit off this false flag drill through OSI security technology which they are both connected to.
[–] sunshine702 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Thank you John -4chan anon. We are on to them!
[–] 11168566? [S] 1 point 3 points 4 points (+4|-1) ago (edited ago)
I used to run with that theory as well because you assume people got trampled or fell and got hurt or whatever but I keep reading news reports that "He killed almost 60 and shot almost 500." So I use their numbers now.
I don't disagree with you though.
EDIT: For example - http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41493409
"Stephen Paddock, the gunman who killed 58 people and injured more than 500 in Las Vegas on Sunday, set up a number of cameras in and around his hotel suite."
[–] 11168771? 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
The news used to always call rifles used in crimes ak-47's and pistols glocks. Inaccuracy is just the way of the media, it's about selling a point, not perfect accurate information distribution to the public.
And your example. "killed 58 people and injured more than 500" they say injured not shot. Even the killed 58 people someone might of had a heart attack and died caused by the shooting.
Even if 500 people were shot ~50% accuracy into a mass of flesh the size of a city block isn't that spectacular. Early audio analysis done by 4chan came up with the guy shooting about 1500shots. So figure 33% accuracy and likely it was much higher than that because people were likely hit more than once.
So I fail to see how this is anything other than a distraction from the real shady shit that is being covered up. Things like why did he rent a car when he owned one, what was his motive, and how did he earn a living.
[–] 1764_sugar_act 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
That means at over 1200' away every other bullet hit someone...
So you acknowledge this isn't true yet you post this bullshit anyway?
So I use their numbers now.
Why in the world would you take something a presstitute said as valuable? It has no value, it is only meant for propaganda purposes. You certainly can't use it as a premise for an argument.
Honestly, I would delete this post. It does nothing to further discussion and only makes Voat look bad. Just my 2 cents.
[–] Oh_Well_ian 3 points -1 points 2 points (+2|-3) ago
LOL not a single video exists of any concert goer being struck by gunfire or trampled by the crowd
[–] Cigarette5mokingman 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
it also doesn't account for ricochet.
[–] Jimmycog 0 points 20 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago
I saw the Picts of that room there were not 1000 casings in that area.
[–] 11168041? [S] 0 points 27 points 27 points (+27|-0) ago
That was the first thing I noticed. He supposedly stood so far back there wasn't one hint of muzzle flash outside of the room. Where the fuck was all the brass? There should have been piles of it. And even a gun owner with little experience knows you don't need more than a couple rifles to what he supposedly did.
More than 200 of those rounds were in the hallway which leaves ~900 at the ground (and fuel tanks). That's better than 50% accuracy at moving targets in a sparsely populated huge space using an uncontrollable bump stock at over 1200 yards WITH WIND. No fucking way.
[–] WhiteRonin 0 points 16 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago
Even as a gun retard. From the beginning I was wondering how he didn't choke on all the smoke and fall over the cases.
[–] Oh_Well_ian 2 points 7 points 9 points (+9|-2) ago
not a single video exists of a victim being struck or a projectile striking terra firma
[–] Oh_Well_ian 1 point 7 points 8 points (+8|-1) ago
nearly 60 kills and 600 hits ( remember, many claimed multiple hits ) with 900 rounds from 400 meters
impossible math
[–] Jimmycog 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
Agreed
[–] Cigarette5mokingman ago
This is very concerning. His leg was also under the rifle. Chair was still in same spot in front of window in 32135. And there is some strange bag of the left hand of the body found in 32135.
[–] Jimmycog ago
And all of the camera videos that didn't get reported.