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[–] Optional-Reading 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Maybe 1,100 rounds from the 32nd floor. How many fired at the ground level? Casings should have been found at ground level as well.

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[–] 11169242? [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

For there to be casings on the ground there would have been visible muzzle flash coming from the window. With zero muzzle flash that means he would have had to stand pretty far back from the window and all of the casings would be inside the room.

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[–] 11169137? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

totally possible. but not for 1 guy.

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[–] Melissus 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Its more likely that there was a firefight on the saudi upper floors and everything else,even Paddock is a show to cover the firefight.

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[–] bigoak9 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

this narrative stinks to high heaven , just tell the fucking truth for once

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[–] 11168513? 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

500 people injured doesn't mean 500 people shot.

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[–] Cigarette5mokingman 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

it also doesn't account for ricochet.

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[–] Oh_Well_ian 3 points -1 points (+2|-3) ago 

LOL not a single video exists of any concert goer being struck by gunfire or trampled by the crowd

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[–] Derpfroot 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Liveleak has one. It's called "Vegas Shooting Concert Site (Dead Bodies)"

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[–] 11168810? 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Not true, you can see one guy get shot fall down and never move again, there are even some still shots of him in the same position he fell in.

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[–] 11168566? [S] 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago  (edited ago)

I used to run with that theory as well because you assume people got trampled or fell and got hurt or whatever but I keep reading news reports that "He killed almost 60 and shot almost 500." So I use their numbers now.

I don't disagree with you though.

EDIT: For example - http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41493409

"Stephen Paddock, the gunman who killed 58 people and injured more than 500 in Las Vegas on Sunday, set up a number of cameras in and around his hotel suite."

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[–] 1764_sugar_act 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

That means at over 1200' away every other bullet hit someone...

So you acknowledge this isn't true yet you post this bullshit anyway?

So I use their numbers now.

Why in the world would you take something a presstitute said as valuable? It has no value, it is only meant for propaganda purposes. You certainly can't use it as a premise for an argument.

Honestly, I would delete this post. It does nothing to further discussion and only makes Voat look bad. Just my 2 cents.

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[–] 11168771? 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

The news used to always call rifles used in crimes ak-47's and pistols glocks. Inaccuracy is just the way of the media, it's about selling a point, not perfect accurate information distribution to the public.

And your example. "killed 58 people and injured more than 500" they say injured not shot. Even the killed 58 people someone might of had a heart attack and died caused by the shooting.

Even if 500 people were shot ~50% accuracy into a mass of flesh the size of a city block isn't that spectacular. Early audio analysis done by 4chan came up with the guy shooting about 1500shots. So figure 33% accuracy and likely it was much higher than that because people were likely hit more than once.

So I fail to see how this is anything other than a distraction from the real shady shit that is being covered up. Things like why did he rent a car when he owned one, what was his motive, and how did he earn a living.

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[–] Cheesebooger 1 point 17 points (+18|-1) ago 

Still waiting for all of the HDCCTV footage. There's more cameras in Vegas than anywhere else! Fucking jews

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[–] ravensedgesom 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Jews like chertoff and adelson and trying to profit off this false flag drill through OSI security technology which they are both connected to.

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[–] sunshine702 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Thank you John -4chan anon. We are on to them!

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[–] Kregan 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

@Cheesebooger- Even if there were some truth to MGM "NOT" showing Paddock loading the guns/luggage because of insurance liability. There would have to be some other video showing something of significance and the fact that there is NOTHING whatsoever is beyond strange!!!

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[–] sunshine702 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago  (edited ago)

There are absolutely camera footage of him checking in, playing his video poker machine and paying his $80,000 marker at the casino cage. Yes two months out to not have any footage or ballistics is fucking hogwash!!

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[–] 11168495? [S] 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Yep. I have a cop buddy who's federal. He said that the top floor or two of that hotel was occupied by high rolling Saudis. I want to see the footage of who goes in and out of his room for the entire time he was checked in. Odd that they haven't shown it by now to prove to everyone he was the lone shooter.

WAY too many people just believe what they first hear and move on with their lives.

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[–] sunshine702 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Sadly Mandalay does NOT have hallway cameras :( But there should be at least gambling and check in footage.

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[–] ravensedgesom 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

more evidence of fakery I mean its been fucking weeks and they still don't have a believable story. No wonder they suddenly curtailed any coverage of LV details.

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[–] Oh_Well_ian 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

far more effort was put into collecting money for 'victims' than seeking JUSTICE for them

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[–] ravensedgesom 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

interesting how that works isn't it?

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[–] Othmar_Regin 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSizVpfqFtw (ULTIMATE AR-15 MELTDOWN) - took about 5min to break an AR-15 with full auto so he would have to have used 3 guns minimum

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[–] 11168452? [S] 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

He wasn't shooting that fast. He also wasn't reloading that fast. The barrel of his guns wouldn't have gotten anywhere near that hot. I can shoot all day at the rate he shot and not worry about burning up an AR15. He only NEEDED one AR15 to do what he supposedly did. I suppose if I were him I'd have brought a couple spares in case of a malfunction but he didn't NEED to have 3 at a minimum. He could have very easily done it all with 1.

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[–] 0fsgivin 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I'm actually suprised that AR stood up to that. It's not meant to be fired like that and even in combat your not gunna shoot an AR like shit. You'd have to have a seperate pack full of magazines.

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[–] ravensedgesom 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

all with shitty bumpfire. AR's heat up really easily unlike an AKM.

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