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[–] Othmar_Regin 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago  (edited ago)

He clearly did not have a tactical vest or any tactical clothes, so the only way for him to swap mags was from a table or the floor and he had next to zero training with guns so even reloading a mag would take him like 5sec(swap mag realign shot) *40mags = 200sec or 3.5min for 1200 rounds(30 each) would take 1/3 of the alleged 10min of shooting

And he was an older guy with a questionable physique, so to take 1200 rounds while swapping mags and aiming and realigning shots would basically be more than he's body was capable of physically, even if he pulled that off he'd probably be dead of a heart attack after.

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[–] 11168404? [S] 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I'm not sure about the zero training. If he truly used bump stocks, he had years of experience with them because I have not seen a single youtube video of anyone shooting them with consistency or regularity. He managed to shoot them all perfectly... which is physically impossible. Bump stocks suck and you usually can only get small bursts with one before it stops shooting. According to police, he'd been buying guns for over a decade so I'm sure he'd been shooting for as long.

I'm not saying you can't shoot 1100 rounds in 9 minutes. I could do it without a bump stock, reloading mags from a table as he did. I'm saying he ONLY shot 1100 rounds and had such amazing fucking accuracy. And if he shot 1100 rounds, why wasn't there 1100 shell casings? Or even 100 shell casings?

Here's a video of a guy shooting a stationary target 1200 yards away with .223. He couldn't hit it 50% of the time shooting slowly and methodically. I won't even get into the fact that after 1000 yards the .223 doesn't have enough velocity to kill someone... ESPECIALLY with store bought ammo. I'm definitely not getting into the fact that there was enough wind that night at that elevation that the bullet would be tumbling after about 1/2 that distance.

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[–] Oh_Well_ian 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

more like 65% accuracy according to the LVPD

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[–] l_voated_today 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

He could have used coffin magazines or some such, not that there aren't still big holes in the official story, just saying.

Edit: in this photo you can see a coffin mag in one rifle and what looks like a big pile of others next to the pillar

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[–] 11168654? [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Those mags look unused and we've already seen the picture of the table with loaded unused mags on it. It doesn't make sense that he'd simply quit shooting unless he accomplished his goal... whatever that was.

Interesting that he'd use a bipod without having something to rest it on... I guess he just wanted it to look more menacing when they found it later.

Hmmm... that AR on the right does not have a bump stock. The one on the left MIGHT but it doesn't look like it. It's hard to tell if the stock is connected to the grip.

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[–] crashing_this_thread 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Jeez, they really are making a lot of mistakes.

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[–] JonReeeeed 1 point 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

honestly, from the get go i simply believed they didn't have the information nor personnel capable of properly evaluating the situation

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[–] Jimmycog 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago 

I saw the Picts of that room there were not 1000 casings in that area.

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[–] Cigarette5mokingman ago 

This is very concerning. His leg was also under the rifle. Chair was still in same spot in front of window in 32135. And there is some strange bag of the left hand of the body found in 32135.

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[–] Jimmycog ago 

And all of the camera videos that didn't get reported.

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[–] 11168041? [S] 0 points 27 points (+27|-0) ago 

That was the first thing I noticed. He supposedly stood so far back there wasn't one hint of muzzle flash outside of the room. Where the fuck was all the brass? There should have been piles of it. And even a gun owner with little experience knows you don't need more than a couple rifles to what he supposedly did.

More than 200 of those rounds were in the hallway which leaves ~900 at the ground (and fuel tanks). That's better than 50% accuracy at moving targets in a sparsely populated huge space using an uncontrollable bump stock at over 1200 yards WITH WIND. No fucking way.

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[–] pauly_pants 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

1200 feet. The ' is used to denote feet in the imperial measurement system.

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[–] 0fsgivin 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago  (edited ago)

It wasn't sparsely populated...People were clustered together in tight groups. Some bullets probably hit multiple people. You are aware bullets continue THROUGH the target correct?

I'm not saying theres not some fuckery with the Vegas investigation just pointing out it's not that suprising if in that situation "Every other bullet hit someone" Even with how shittily accurate a bump stock is at long range. Those groups of people were 25x25 yards wide Well into the shooting.

At the start of the shooting you had people shoulder to shoulder over hundreds or square yards. Many of those first bullets hit two people... It's really not that hard to understand if you know anything about firearms.

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[–] Jimmycog 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Agreed

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[–] Oh_Well_ian 1 point 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

nearly 60 kills and 600 hits ( remember, many claimed multiple hits ) with 900 rounds from 400 meters

impossible math