[–] eucalyptus_spearmint ago (edited ago)
I feel like it's splitting hairs either way. I could argue that the abolition of school prayer gave Satan the "in" he needed for said Marxism to gain a foothold, but I don't have a magical window into the realm of the spirit. I just think it's an awfully strong coincidence if the statistics are valid. I've always been taught that "the prayer of a righteous man availeth much" and "whatsoever ye ask in Christ's name", etc. In short, prayer is nothing to shrug at. I truly believe the gains being made today are a result of MANY prayers and without CONTINUED prayer, repentance, faith in God, what we are seeing is but a brief respite...
And yes, Jordan Peterson is pretty great! 👍
[–] novictim 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
But the time sequence is wrong. The Marxists came in first and then the Prayer (and notions of patriotism and national pride) went out the window due to indoctrination in the schools and colleges. And don't forget the admonition of Christ to not pray on the Street Corner (eg Don't demonstrate you virtue to be seen as virtuous. Just be Virtuous!). Praying in a school seems like:
1) Praying on the street corner
2) An industrialization of prayer and
3) Public Schools are not Churches and public school Prayer led by the paid staff on school time is a violation of the separation of Church and State. Trust me. You DO NOT WANT the government to be endorsing a branch of Christianity or opening that door for any other religion. We can all pray or not pray in our own way. The Creator is not housed in a cube in Mecca and requires you to face him with geographical precision and pray at particular times and manner!
Hey, I hope your Thanksgiving is with a happy and healthy family and good cheer all around!
[–] eucalyptus_spearmint 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I never said God was housed in any cube in Mecca or required us to face it while we pray? Prayer in schools was still reverence to the authority of our creator, and one need not all believe in the exact same things about God to ask Him for the things we surely all want from Him. And think of the psychological effect of removing that daily reverence to something greater than ourselves. While I do see your point about government mandated anything, it went on in our schools for 200 years...and I would not in good conscience be able to argue that things have improved since that time. :) But you make some good points.
Thank you for the well wishes! I hope the same for you! 😊