[–] ErnieTheEarner ago
Someone has to sell drugs to the customers and guess who does that? Black people. Although, I do agree cops should spend time arresting the white users buying weed and other shit. That puts them at a higher search rate by the police, if they are interested in reducing crime. Face it, black people are the street level drug dealers feeding the drug habits of white people...That is their job. If you don't like it, then maybe opening the borders for muslims will put you guys out of business. muslims would probably do a better job, don't have to put up with all the other crimes like carjackings and home invasions. Just go to a 7-11 and buy your shit.
[–] GoofyGrape ago
To start with, I think black people in America have very legitimate grievances, especially when it comes to the war on drugs. That being said, I get pissed off at articles like this saying that this translates into white privilege.
My two main points on this subject in general and this article in particular are:
A. These points are describing black disadvantage more so than white privilege. Those are not identical concepts.
B. The vast majority of white people (>98%?) have negligible influence on the criminal justice system. We are not police officers or attorneys or judges and we seldom sit on juries.
For point A, how does all of this benefit the average white person? The author points out that 32% of black males will go to jail at least once during their lifetime, which means that 68% would not. Since the author implies that 32% of black males going to jail at least once is too high, can we say that at least 68% of whites should not be going to jail too? What benefit or privilege therefore is extended to them by having black people who don’t belong in jail go to jail? At the absolute low end, 68% of white people do not benefit from having too many black people in jail, and if anything would have to pay more taxes.
Another way to think about point A is you could swap out white in the article and replace it with Asian and while the numbers would change some, the overall disadvantage to blacks would still remain.
For point B, how many people do you know have sat on a jury that featured a black defendant? My immediate family and I have about 200 years of adulthood between us. In all that time we have served on exactly 1 jury, and that was decades ago and did not involve a black defendant. Some could argue that people could stop supporting politicians who are tough on crime, but people vote for many reasons, not just crime.
Even the 14th point there that talks about job applicants. What percentage of whites ever make hiring decisions? I’m guessing it is less than 10%. Even if the rest of us could influence a hiring decision, I doubt most whites have much influence or many opportunities to use that influence.
In addition to these two main points, here are some more things to bring up.
With regards to the public defender issue, Colin Flaherty did an interview with an attorney who had served as a public defender. It’s anecdotal but sometimes anecdotes are much better than stats https://youtu.be/Ry8m4rUEHu8
For point two, police stop black people at approximately the same rate that suspect descriptions are reported to them. As an example, if witnesses describe a suspect as black 50% of the time in a given area, it isn’t racist if 50% of the people arrested or investigated are black. I don’t have the source for this but I saw it on the internet so it must be true.
[–] 11038054? 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
White man to the rescue:
One: They talk about "drug" offenses at roughly comparable rates. They ignore the fact that drug offenses committed by blacks are more frequently violent, and more frequently gun related. Thus the harsher sentences.
Two: It's called profiling, and it works. If black people don't like being profiled, then they should focus on cleaning up their neighborhoods and improving their social image, instead of just complaining about how it's never their fault. Example: https://hooktube.com/watch?v=2ZGSQXmJPaQ
Three: Talks about arrests for drug crimes. This author doesn't seem to realize that police are also humans, capable of exercising judgement. If a white kid has some weed on him, and breaks down in tears as the gravity of what is about to go down hits him, a cop might just let him go. I got let go from an open container charge for the same reason. And who's to say a cop wouldn't do the same thing for a black kid in the same circumstances? But that's not what happens. What usually happens is the black kid does something stupid like try to run, or pull a gun, or mimic pulling a gun. And these days, when you have BLM actively promoting the death of police officers, I don't really blame them for being a little paranoid. Cops have been executed in their cars simply for being cops - very recently.
Four: Maybe they're detained longer because it takes longer to build a case around a greater multitude of charges? See Number 1 and the failure to mention the incidence of violence in "drug arrests".
Five: Implying that white people can universally afford private defenders. Horseshit.
Six: "Illegally excluded". Right. I don't have time to hunt down that study, but given the front page of the EJI's website, I'm not satisfied with the impartiality of this study. From nolo.com:
Implied Bias. Implied bias is present when potential jurors have character traits or personal experiences that make it unlikely for them to be able to be impartial, regardless of what they say during voir dire. So, a juror who is a close friend or relative of a key party, a witness, the judge, or an attorney for either side will be dismissed for cause. Bias is also implied when a would-be juror’s background or experience is likely to create a predisposition in favor of a party to the case. For example, in a case involving school teachers accused of fraudulently misrepresenting standardized test scores, any teachers in the panel will probably be excused for cause (even if those teachers swear in voir dire that they can be impartial).
So, if I were a prosecutor of a black burglary suspect, and I found out one of the jurors regularly contributed to the EJI, for isntance, I might consider challenging their impartiality.
Seven: Black suspects opt for the guaranteed lesser sentence rather than risking the full sentence, and somehow that's the system's fault?
Eight: Recidivism rates for blacks are ~59.1%; for whites, ~41.7% (src: https://www.recidivism.com/ scroll about 2/3 down to find the race graph). That could have something to do with the sentencing. There's probably a million different things that the average person isn't aware of that goes into determining sentencing guidelines, because we're not lawyers.
Nine: That's just straight up misleading. "See this r-value here? Obviously this means racism!" Bullshit. Flimsy correlation is flimsy.
Ten: And once again, we come back to that fun phrase "drug crime", which conveniently ignores the fact that "drug crimes" by blacks are also overwhelmingly violent crimes, thus the disparity.
Eleven: This is another misleading statistic. NIglets aren't 32% more likely to go to jail because they're black, they're 32% more likely to make choices that result in jail time because they're black. That's how arrests work - you have to break the law first. If you don't break the law, and are arrested, people who aren't stupid know how to deal with that.
Twelve: Somehow, the over-representation of black juveniles in arrest statistics is everyone else's fault. Once again, we are reminded about the liberal's disdain for personal accountability.
Thirteen: Black males are the largest percentage of inmates in the country that incarcerates the most of its citizens. Yet another reminder that personal agency means nothing to the left.
And Fourteen: Mysteriously absent from this gem is the phrase "similarly qualified".
Well, that was fun. Hope it helps.
[–] redpilledblackguy [S] ago
Good answers. The video made me role my eyes. Is there any sources you can give me?
CDC and FBI are the places to look. But I don't have any on hand.
You might also try the Library of Hate
[–] leahbettsisdead 2 points -2 points 0 points (+0|-2) ago (edited ago)
Attack the source. Call the author names. Use other statistics out of context to obfuscate. Use racial epithets say "because". Hold minorities accountable for not being able to swim laps with anchors around their necks. Talk in circles. Avoid any of the points raised. Bottom line, create confusion.
[–] White-Supremacist ago
Nothing to debunk. https://youtu.be/_CJK5dFplR4 Jewish slave trade. Jews pay for reparations and blaxit back to africa.