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[–] sheepsexplode 2 points 3 points 5 points (+5|-2) ago
Often, vaccine advocates who focus on families who have suffered from vaccine preventable diseases are accused of fear mongering. Strangely enough, fear is often what motivates people to refuse vaccines. Fear of what most parents just don’t understand; the ingredients and the side-effects.
Don’t let this be you!
Shannon Peterson, whose unvaccinated daughter died in 2001 from a vaccine-preventable disease, just shy of her sixth birthday, explained that “A life-changing event — one involving your children — will make any parent regret what they could’ve done.”
[–] RedditisPropaganda31 [S] 3 points -1 points 2 points (+2|-3) ago
I can link THOUSANDS of cases of parents regretting vaccines because AUTISM.
Shill much?
[–] sheepsexplode 2 points 1 point 3 points (+3|-2) ago (edited ago)
Go ahead link away.
Won’t change how you’d feel losing your kid to something preventable.
Calling me a name only indicates your level of intellect.
You are to stupid to know your stupid.
[–] GOMAD_OR_GFYAD 3 points 3 points 6 points (+6|-3) ago
Who do you think pays for the health care costs when unvaccinated people get sick?
[–] puggy 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Please read up on herd immunity. Unvaccinated kids are a problem to infants and kids who cannot be vaccinated because they are immune compromised due to cancer or some other condition. The fewer vaccinated kids there are in the community, the more likely a newborn or compromised kid will get sick and possibly die. The more vaccinated kids there are, the less likely that kid will get sick. People forget that common disease such as chicken pox used to kill thousands of infants per year.
The chicken pox vaccine offers an example of the effectiveness of disease-resistant links. After the chicken pox vaccine debuted in the United States in 1995, deaths rates from chicken pox dropped by as much as 97%. Significantly, even though the vaccine is not administered to infants, no infants died from chicken pox in the United States between 2004 and 2007. These tiniest, most vulnerable links in the chain of human connections avoided exposure thanks to herd immunity.
[–] DeliciousOnions 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago (edited ago)
It's the idea of a 'tipping point' for an epidemic.
Let's say that 99% of people all get vaccinated. That 1% remaining is very unlikely to get sick, because the disease isn't able to survive in 99% of its hosts. So nobody gets sick.
Now let's say that 50% of people are vaccinated. Now the disease can spread, because enough of the people exposed are also unvaccinated that there's a chance of it continuing on.
This is also why they talk about vaccine immunity - if a disease can't spread, it can't evolve nearly as fast.
Edit - think of it in terms of a zombie outbreak. If nobody is vaccinated, zombie outbreaks are common. If half the population is vaccinated, zombie outbreaks are still common. But if 99% of the population is vaccinated, zombie outbreaks simply don't happen because they can't bite an unvaccinated host in time.
This isn't an argument to blindly let the state inject your children with mystery syringes, but it's an argument you'll hear.
[–] RedditisPropaganda31 [S] 1 point -1 points 0 points (+0|-1) ago
So people who are not vaccinated by choice .... They are simply expressing free will in their actions ... and can not harm vaccinated people since vaccines work, right?
[–] DeliciousOnions 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I'm already at the edges of my knowledge on this issue but I tend to agree with you, that unless we start to see diseases evolving from their spread among the unvaccinated there's really no danger.
[–] phw 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I think the idea is that vaccines aren't 100% effective. Say you have a measles vaccine that's theoretically 98% effective (number pulled from my ass, replace with the real one if you care enough to look it up). But even for the unlucky 2% of vaccinated people, they can still only catch measles from someone who has it, meaning they're 50 times more likely to catch it from an unvaccinated person than a vaccinated one.
[–] XSS1337 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago (edited ago)
"Fuck you kike. You die first " - https://voat.co/user/RedditisPropaganda31
Response: " HAHAHAHAHAHA Unless you got vaccinated , it wont be me dying JEW "
[–] RedditisPropaganda31 [S] 1 point -1 points 0 points (+0|-1) ago
You fucking kike projecting your kikeness on me.
[–] Zinnsee 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
I copy what I wrote in another thread about vaccination:
and from another thread:
[–] RedditisPropaganda31 [S] 2 points 0 points 2 points (+2|-2) ago (edited ago)
Well thought out argument but this is a simple truth:
The FDA and Big Pharma are beyond corrupt, aka run by psychopaths, and want us to be sick for profit.
Could a few select vaccines help? Maybe. Have humans survived fine throughout history without vaccines? Yes. Hell, we even beat the bubonic plague.
Let's talk about how super-bugs resistant to antibiotics are coming up.
[–] Zinnsee 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
Yeah I don't trust Big Pharma either, they were caught too many times doing nasty stuff. I rather die/get sick from a natural disease than from a man made one.
[–] XSS1337 1 point -1 points 0 points (+0|-1) ago
do you want a bottle before your nap ?