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[–] MasivGam3 ago  (edited ago)

You haven't made any actual effort to dispute my claim that Mein Kampf led to genocide. You're just deflecting.

You haven't staked a valid claim. Your "claim" was just a statement without any proof. You tried to prove it with quotes from the book and I demonstrated to you how your assumptions are based on misinterpretation or far fetched assumptions.

Where is the flaw in my logic?

The fundamental flaw with your logic is that you claim there to be cause-and-effect relationship between publishing the book and the systemic genocide.

While "Mein Kampf" definitely did not prevent genocide from happening, it in itself was very tame and ordinary book, it did not call for genocide of anyone, and there is no reason to believe that it was in any way a critical factor that lead to the eventual genocide.

Your original claim was that "Mein Kampf", the book, "led to genocide". Come on! Seriously... This is just ridiculous.

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[–] the_sovereign ago 

How are they misinterpretations or far fetched assumptions when the author and the primary audience (the Germans) systematically committed genocide? And I literally quoted you a passage saying as much. What's ridiculous is that you're still defending such an antisemitic tome.

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[–] MasivGam3 ago  (edited ago)

when the author and the primary audience (the Germans) systematically committed genocide?

The personality of the author has nothing to do with the presence or absence of a direct cause-and-effect relationship between the book and the genocide. They were part of the same picture, but there is no proof that the book caused the genocide, which was your original claim. You are just talking nonsense at this point already.

And I literally quoted you a passage saying as much.

And I literally quoted to you the German original demonstrating that you rely on mistranslation and a priory assumptions, cherry picking details that suite you well while ignoring other much more likely possibilities.

Just to be clear - there is no proof that existence of "Mein Kampf", a rather ordinary and tame book for that time period, directly led to the genocide of Jews. It might have been a contributing factor, a one detail of the whole picture, but there is no direct cause-and-effect link.

What's ridiculous is that you're still defending such an antisemitic tome.

And here we come to the root of the problem. You think that it is right to talk nonsense as long as the subject is Antisemitic. And none is supposed to intervene, because that would be "morally wrong" and in some countries (Germany) even illegal. But this approach has created a lot of problems in the modern world, where you replace a sensible dialog and scientific analysis with an cult-like ideology with its "right" and "wrong" opinions, taboos and untouchable topics, and anyone pointing out flaws in your reasoning suddenly becomes someone who "defends Antisemitism".

That sick ideological obsession is doing more harm to the modern society than "Mein Kampf" ever did.