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[–] 4_InquiringMinds ago 

This all on the assumption that Seth Rich is doa. Wiki is a cia operation/so did Seth even leak to wiki or was he part of another agenda. We can't be sure of any of this bc of all the strange events around his so called murder. It is possible that this all has been a psyop. It is possible that when trump was selected to be elected information needed to be 'leaked' for a plausible reason for HC to lose. HC may have pissed someone off/wasn't willing to follow her instructions/trump selected and pg was dropped in our laps.

Would not have thought this awhile back but watching propaganda more closely other avenues of consideration open up. Julian failed the 9/11 litmus test. He cannot possibly be legit or he is brain dead. Listen to this on Operation Northwoods and it becomes clear how the planes and passengers were orchestrated.

This Declassified Document Is the Ultimate Proof

Now how could Julian not understand this? So wiki CIA which then makes everything about the Seth story highly suspect.

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[–] NoBS 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

You really believe a pissed off Podesta and criminally insane Hillary did not know what was on his thumb drive?

The data leaves forensic digital markers. Hell, there is a Podesta email where he implies a veiled threat BEFORE the wet work was committed on the very public tarmac meeting.

A few weeks later Imran Awan can flaunt espionage for the world to see under FBI protection. Blackmail is the only coin spoken in the Swamp.

What if we learn the CIA is blackmailing the President of the United States of America.

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[–] 4_InquiringMinds ago  (edited ago)

Cia blackmailing potus...sure/anyone that makes it to potus is blackmail worthy. trump has a lot to hide. It is hard to figure out what is going on/mostly I don't even try. Whatever story is being spun via msm or so called alternative news is a conglomeration of various tales. It's like pick a theory. Keep in mind that the alphabet agencies might have their own internal power struggles and the deep state factions might also have theirs. Ppl that are in this for power are not all one big happy family working for a common goal together. The lust for power (even if a common goal) creates factions within the groups.

So here is one possibility...wiki cia/seth cia (ck out his family history for starters). It would seem reasonable that the cia would want their own mole in the clinton camp/not like they are going to take clinton or podesta's word on things/the cia is about spying. clinton crosses some line so trump, who was playing the strawman, is moved into position for potus. At this point in the campaign trump is not well liked by anyone and he acts more like a buffoon. He is given the go ahead to be a serious contender. Reason I think this might be the case is there was a point in the campaigning that I saw a shift in him. In order for him to seem like a legitimate winner (pre decided) he has to have a ground swell of public support. What better way than to leak info trying clinton and podesta to sra. Seth, as the cia mole, is instructed to 'leak' info to wiki. clinton and podesta know there is a leak and the know it's cia/hence the email. clinton comes from a mafia family so wacking ppl is sop for her. They wack seth which could explain julian's anger.

Then again bc of all the strangeness surrounding the 'facts' of his death, the brother that could barely contain his laughter during the tv interview reminiscent of sandy hoax. Other strange things the parents, brother have done that don't make any rational sense...plus their family history. So what if the cia learns of the plot to wack Seth and he is either removed all together (so no event happened at all) or hurt but not life threatening and is removed (the brother having a hard time keeping a straight face). Julian could still be pissed that they had the balls to try and wack a cia operative. Not just julian...but a lot of ppl in the cia.

Another possible...seth was sincere, leaked to wiki and cia revealed who he was to the proper folks who then had him wacked...but that doesn't explain the smirking brother and other odd things the family has done. It doesn't explain the conflicting hospital stories, eye witness stories etc.

Then you have the fbi that is in a power struggle with the cia. Who even knows that is going on behind closed doors there.

The story line of martyrs is always so 'clean'...a home town boy that just wanted to serve his country. But what about Monica Peterson who best I can tell was the real deal, was really murdered and the propaganda creators don't seem interested in starting multiple rabbit hole stories to keep ppl digging in that direction. All attentions by the propaganda folks keep steering ppl towards seth. There is something about the seth case that is important to the hidden ops behind events.

clinton was promised the election...had been promised it for a long time. trump was chosen as the strawman but could also be moved into position if necessary bc he is controlled. clinton had soros as her benefactor...but something fell apart behind the scenes. She barely campaigned/could not keep up the pace. Was it her health and she was asked to step down and said hell no? Or was it her drinking that kept her mia and it was determined that her drinking was so out of control she could not be counted on to carry the agenda/nothing like a drunk potus which would not deliver in a way she should/or a combination of both. Or did she decide to rise above her assigned position bc she is arrogant and so full of herself she pissed off those above her/I could see her telling her superiors fuck off morons/that is pretty much her persona. She was known for treating everyone like shit. Look at all the clinton's body guards that bit the dust/business partners etc/heck, even lovers.

If the so called seth murder followed any kind of logical timeline/story/like Monica...sure, it's as it stands. There is something else going on. What is obvious is someone's are out to get clinton and it has nothing to do with justice bc justice is a good thing/it is something much more. She is refusing to go quietly into the night and she has enough dirt on everyone perhaps she is making her own threats to others that she has no business threatening. It would be too obvious at this point to take her out (not that it stops them but for some reason caution is being exercised, her own insurance file would be one reason).

There is definitely something really big going on behind closed doors and to keep ppl occupied stories are spun.

Same with Harvey W...what we are seeing is a show. He also crossed a line somewhere and is being made an example. Ppl that are investigating the various stories are being herded in different directions which fragments investigations/causes a great deal of arguing and debating and well, fighting. It's all scripted. We are in a petri dish. Voat is a petri dish...who really owns voat anyway? Ppl were never able to determine such.

There are so many insulated layers above that move pieces around like a monopoly game. When I was 19 dated a guy who was the grandson of one of the founders of gulf oil. He said those in real power you will never hear their names, mere pawns, Rockefeller's, Rothschild etc. They are pawns. He was a really sweet guy until he turned 21 and went to England for the summer/his coming of majority kinda. When he returned I didn't even recognize him. It was so freaky I left the relationship. He had started grooming me/gave me books to read and a time frame to complete them. One was The Story of O which was so sick and demented. But I never forgot his words of being played like a monopoly game and everything since that has fit perfectly into that scenario.

And of course in monopoly each player wants to win. The goal might be the same but those at the highest hidden levels are certainly not all one big happy family. From our viewing angle we see the fragments of the infighting/reason the stories are so confusing and don't make sense. Yes, there is a struggle for control of the world but it is not us vs them, we are inconsequential little peons running around. They swat us like flies.

The are still farming, warehousing children, still doing sra. With all due respect, seth (whomever he is) is inconsequential. Finding where the children are held is what matters if one is to pursue the linear construct.

The one thing they do fear from 'us' is that we awaken, and I mean truly awaken. We realize who we are in truth (the hidden knowledge)...that is what would collapse this whole game. It's the reason they have infiltrated all the religions including the so called New Age movement (another cia creation just like the hippies). Were we to reclaim our true selves we could collapse this hologram in an instant...we are that powerful but we can't see it.

On a lighter note I love this spoof on the new age...

The Newer Age Movement

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[–] fogdryer [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

looking at the connections between the Awan brothers and the fugitive Dr. Ali Al-Attar who fled the US while being indicted for massive healthcare and tax fraud and was later spotted in Lebanon with Hezbollah.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/20/exclusive-house-dem-it-guys-in-security-probe-secretly-took-100k-in-iraqi-money/

The $100,000 loan came as the dealership continued to rack up debt, court records show. “Ali Al-Attar was out of the country as he was involved in politics and the formation of the Iraqi government,” Khattak said in court documents.
While the Awans had access to the emails of members of sensitive congressional committees, Abid incorporated a car dealership in Falls Church, Va., with Nasir Khattek, who operated an established car dealership next door. Khattek later said in sworn testimony that the Abid dealership’s financial books were a sham. Abid’s dealership received $100,000 from Ali Al-Attar, an Iraqi politician who practiced medicine in the Washington, D.C. region and is a fugitive from the U.S. Department of Justice. The dealership racked up debts to people who subsequently accused Abid of fraud, according to court documents. Abid filed bankruptcy to discharge the debts, while his family members remained untouched. Khattek testified the dealership was run as a “family business,” with Imran, not Abid, in control. http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/05/house-dem-it-suspects-wanted-untraceable-payments-and-sure-enough-millions-disappeared/

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/paul-wolfowitzs-iran-connection/ And just as Ahmed Chalabi eventually turned out to be something akin to a double agent, feathering his own nest while providing U.S. intelligence to the Iranians, there is also a back story to the Wolfowitz group. The Iraqis were headed by one Dr. Ali A. al-Attar, born in Baghdad in 1963, a 1989 graduate of the American University of Beirut Faculty of Medicine. He subsequently emigrated to the United States and set up a practice in internal medicine in Greenbelt, Maryland, a suburb of Washington D.C. Al-Attar eventually expanded his business to include nine practices that he wholly or partly owned in Virginia and Maryland. Al-Attar prospered and moved to upscale McLean, Virginia, but he soon found himself in trouble with both regulatory and tax authorities. In April 2009, his license to practice medicine was suspended by the Maryland State Board of Physicians due to “questionable billing practices.” Al-Attar refused to cooperate with the Board in subsequent investigations, which included inquiry into the level of care he was providing as well as his “unprofessional conduct” relating to sexual relationships with patients. His license to practice medicine was revoked in September 2011. Al-Attar was also being investigated by the FBI for large scale health care fraud in 2008-9. He and his partner Dr. Abdul H. Fadul charged insurance companies more than $2.3 million for services their patients did not actually receive, with many of the false claims using names of diplomats and employees enrolled in a group plan at the Egyptian Embassy in Washington. In one case, the doctors claimed an embassy employee visited three of their clinics every 26 days between May 2007 and August 2008 to have the same testing done each time. The insurance company paid the doctors $55,000 for more than 400 nonexistent procedures for that one patient alone. Al-Attar exploited the fact that he had a number practices in two states with separate billing and banking arrangements, including individual tax numbers, which enabled him to shift money around to fool his own accountants regarding his actual income. As in the case of the Egyptian Embassy, he was able to multiple-bill for the frequently fabricated services rendered once he obtained insurance information. Al-Attar was indicted by the federal government acting on behalf of the IRS in March 2012 for having fraudulently prepared tax returns between 2004 and 2006. The IRS claimed that he and his business partner Fadul systematically diverted payments from the accounts of their several offices into their personal accounts, siphoning off more than $500,000. The government case involved the instances of fraud that were easiest to prove in court, but it was likely just the tip of an iceberg with millions more in additional money being diverted to offshore accounts in the Middle East and elsewhere. Dr. Ali A. Al-Attar fled the United States after the indictment to avoid arrest and imprisonment. Late in 2012 he was observed in Beirut, Lebanon conversing with a Hezbollah official. It turns out that al-Attar is only a first generation Iraqi. He was born in Baghdad, but his parents were both from Iran.

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