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[–] Are_we_shill ago  (edited ago)

Hate to jump into this squabble, but you're both partially right. The key difference to remember is between a "false flag" (deaths, i.e. 9/11) and a "hoax" (no deaths, i.e. Sandy Hook) while both are "psyops"

My initial impression of Las Vegas was also that this is another hoax. And I can't blame anyone who thought that given the deep states penchant for running so many past hoaxes. However I came to learn that there were actual deaths and injuries this time. However, there are clearly some crisis actors being used to give interviews along with real victims.

Robert David Steele has coined a new term and calls this event a "hybrid psyop" using elements of both false flag (deaths, a patsy) and a hoax (crisis actors). This is the best explanation I've heard so far.

my $0.02

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[–] kestrel9 ago 

Thanks. I agree there are plenty of reasons to believe that elements of the deep state were involved. I just lost two posts expounding on it.

At any rate, since I know for a fact that people getting injured or killed at the concert wasn’t a hoax, the possibility of false flag is there, but what appears the obvious motivation for that…i.e. erosion of guns rights, seems a bit too obvious, after thinking about it for some time. Yes there’s FEMA event/security event/crisis actor ad.

Taken together however, it starts to sound too convenient of a narrative given other parts of what we’ve been told. A narrative that is quite weak upon examination (shooter passed all background checks, he wasn’t considered extreme to those who knew him, no law could have prevented this.)

I admit that at first I thought it was about gun control ( i.e. Sandy Hook but not a pure hoax this time). Perhaps it is. But if so, why give such an unclear narrative that makes it really about anything one might first consider…

He’s ISIS or not….He’s left wing antifa or not…He’s secretly a government official or not…No suicide note or maybe there is one…He committed suicide or maybe he was shot by FBI or not.