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[–] compbioguy 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

This almost sounds like mod teams could consider leaving and moving to other sites, such as Voat, or even something else. If they do the work to put the celebrity coordinating network and infrastructure as something they own, then reddit doesn't really provide much value, just readers. By giving that up, that could end up hurting reddit corp in the future if mod teams just move their communities. Voat should try and recruit some mod teams over for good subreddits

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[–] Exuberant_Murica 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I would love some of those Mods over here. And yes, I know there are some douche bag mods out there that need to get kicked. But still, very knowledgable people

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[–] Andvari 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I would hope that Atko would invite some of the better mods. Or mods for verses that already exist here could reach out.

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[–] oomf 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

I can't really see what huge value these mods added. I mean how hard is it to msg someone on twitter and ask them if they want to do an AMA?

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[–] Cyrillus ago 

I think it's much more time consuming than that, and moderating involves many, many judgment calls, which can either make for a harmonious community or a vitriolic one.

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[–] senpaithatignoresyou 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

This deflates the whole "they are targeting the ceo because she is a womyn" narrative that started getting pushed this week.

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[–] Andvari 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

This narrative drives me crazy. How did Pao get elected to be the figurehead for women in tech and business?

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[–] senpaithatignoresyou 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

the old fashioned way: money and connections.

From what i can tell, she has mostly a finance background. Her husband allegedly has a lot of money, she came from a finance firm, so automatically she has flunkies and social climbers who want to get on her good side and sell this narrative that she is some sort of groundbreaking woman in a man dominate field.

This whole situation is frankly, odd, and the longer it goes on, the more questions get asked.

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[–] 96threpublic 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I wonder if this will show up on reddit.

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[–] sagoober 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I was just thinking the same thing. How has this not been upvoted like crazy there?

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[–] 661872? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Chairman Pao doesn't want it to be seen.

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[–] Shadowolf_ 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

it's on /r/blackout2015

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[–] xpdx [S] 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I think this whole Reddit revolt really is a huge misunderstanding. That doesn't excuse it or make it better but it does put it in a different perspective. It seems like some of the folks running Reddit really haven't taken the time to get to know the community, the subtleties, the grungy lovely chaos of it all. It's just too easy to say "It's haters and misogynists and racists and assholes." Well, yes, there are those people, but there are other people too and they have legitimate complaints. Lumping them in with 'the haters' and then dismissing them as irrelevant doesn't really endear them to you.

This regime at reddit seems to think they are fighting against haters when they are really fighting against many different small groups that in the end make up the reddit community. As a leader of a company I imagine it can be easy to blame haters for your problems, after all an online community can be a vicious, nasty, clicky, and unforgiving place (much like the rich boys club at a VC firm cough cough) - but just like any culture you can't come in and lay your own value system on top of it and start judging people and complaining that they don't fit your ideas of what is correct. Or rather you CAN, but you can't without a lot of pushback, which is what we see here. Ultimately it's a self defeating strategy.

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[–] Cyrillus 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I'm very glad to see this. Many news outlets were reporting on what happened and not quite getting the details right. Many news stories made it seem like the shutdown was over a personal grudge that Victoria was fired. But karmanaut was clear from his very first comment that they shut the sub-reddit down for practical reasons: They literally could not run AMAs without Victoria fulfilling her role, so they were caught off guard and temporarily stuck. And though they enjoyed working with Victoria, the more fundamental issue was the way Reddit treats its moderators and the community at large.

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[–] Shadowolf_ ago  (edited ago)

Honestly it depends on who you source. the ask IAMA mods will outline what karmanuat said.. since this was there state reason. But the average end user is going to be all over the place. From censorship, to Victoria,or simple a vague notation that things aren't right. This event was a focal point for many difference grievances that have overlapping components.

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[–] Cyrillus ago 

Honestly it depends on who you source

If news outlets are reporting why IAMA shut down and karmanaut (and other IAMA mods) are the ones that shut it down, then their stated reasons for doing so are the reasons it was shut down. It doesn't matter if you ask other users because other users do not know what's inside the IAMA mods' heads.

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[–] Caboose_Calloway 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Paywall.

Somebody provide a mirror pls.

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[–] SwimmingInAFishbowl ago 

Meanwhile on reddit

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[–] Meggoca ago 

An interesting peek under the tent...

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