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[–] SwimmingInAFishbowl ago 

Meanwhile on reddit

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[–] Meggoca ago 

An interesting peek under the tent...

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[–] Snag ago 

I thought that was a great read, letter from two Mod's, although I really would have liked to see them touch on the censorship that reddit corp is steering....which is personally why I left.

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[–] Cyrillus 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I'm very glad to see this. Many news outlets were reporting on what happened and not quite getting the details right. Many news stories made it seem like the shutdown was over a personal grudge that Victoria was fired. But karmanaut was clear from his very first comment that they shut the sub-reddit down for practical reasons: They literally could not run AMAs without Victoria fulfilling her role, so they were caught off guard and temporarily stuck. And though they enjoyed working with Victoria, the more fundamental issue was the way Reddit treats its moderators and the community at large.

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[–] Shadowolf_ ago  (edited ago)

Honestly it depends on who you source. the ask IAMA mods will outline what karmanuat said.. since this was there state reason. But the average end user is going to be all over the place. From censorship, to Victoria,or simple a vague notation that things aren't right. This event was a focal point for many difference grievances that have overlapping components.

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[–] Cyrillus ago 

Honestly it depends on who you source

If news outlets are reporting why IAMA shut down and karmanaut (and other IAMA mods) are the ones that shut it down, then their stated reasons for doing so are the reasons it was shut down. It doesn't matter if you ask other users because other users do not know what's inside the IAMA mods' heads.

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[–] rothx ago 

Look what happened to Digg when they didn't listen.

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[–] Caboose_Calloway 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Paywall.

Somebody provide a mirror pls.

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[–] crustyruffles ago 

I understand their passion, but if something is making you so unhappy that you write to the New York Times...why don't you just bail?

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[–] Shadowolf_ ago 

Because at this point there a power block. They still have cards to play in this game going forward. There also the core issue that Voat really can't handle reddit traffic load from a hardware perspective and likely at a software engineering perspective (really unsure if they ever can with the current backend framework being .NET asp and sql 2 there sort of reliant on licensed Microsoft products which increase the cost significantly. and the tools are more aimed at the medium to large business.. not reddit level traffic)

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[–] xpdx [S] 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I think this whole Reddit revolt really is a huge misunderstanding. That doesn't excuse it or make it better but it does put it in a different perspective. It seems like some of the folks running Reddit really haven't taken the time to get to know the community, the subtleties, the grungy lovely chaos of it all. It's just too easy to say "It's haters and misogynists and racists and assholes." Well, yes, there are those people, but there are other people too and they have legitimate complaints. Lumping them in with 'the haters' and then dismissing them as irrelevant doesn't really endear them to you.

This regime at reddit seems to think they are fighting against haters when they are really fighting against many different small groups that in the end make up the reddit community. As a leader of a company I imagine it can be easy to blame haters for your problems, after all an online community can be a vicious, nasty, clicky, and unforgiving place (much like the rich boys club at a VC firm cough cough) - but just like any culture you can't come in and lay your own value system on top of it and start judging people and complaining that they don't fit your ideas of what is correct. Or rather you CAN, but you can't without a lot of pushback, which is what we see here. Ultimately it's a self defeating strategy.

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