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[–] Truthplease5 ago 

another thing I noticed while researching Frank Olson - connects with Lynch, Comey, Clinton etc!!

while researching Frank Olson - see MKULTRA, Project Artichoke, mysterious death

I came across a video/documentary about his son's reinvestigation into his fathers death [http://www.cultureunplugged.com/documentary/watch-online/play/9586/Code-Name-Artichoke]

Around 1975 (see: 1975 Church Committee and Rockefeller Commission) there were Senate Hearings/investigations/intelligence gathered on illegal actions by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), National Security Agency (NSA) and Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) after certain activities had been revealed by the Watergate affair

the documentary mentioned above references a 11July1975 WH MEMO subject/entitled: The Olson MATTER/ CIA Suicide and notes "... There (is...) the possibility that it might be necessary to disclose highly classified national security information in connection with any court suit or legislative hearings...."

THIS IS HIGHLY REMINISCENT OF THE CLINTON MATTER!

downgrading terminology - INVESTIGATION to MATTER

when an investigation is concerning things such as death of contractors/public figures, government testing/activities, possibly illegal actions, highly publicized etc - the tightening of the belt in terminology is implemented to sweep the MATTER under the rug instead of having an INVESTIGATION seen to fruition and have the results be seen and felt publicly

note: this is new to me bc I was not alive during those times so yes this is news to me hence the surprise

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[–] 10068443? ago 

FYI➡This info. was posted to politics sub.

It had 107 upvotes and 15 comments just now.

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[–] turitelle ago 

Dumb. These guys are amateurs compared to our politicians who just got voted out... they only sent written memos via post it notes, and triple deleted all their emails.

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[–] RedGreenAlliance 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Please have a look at this post: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2041343

I've copied the content here for visibility:


Significance to Pizzagate as explained in this linked post: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2041059

ELIZABETH CARLILE = LIZZIE CARLISLE - Loretta's maternal grandmother's birth name (twice married; later Lizzie Bell then finally Lizzie Harris)

LORETTA LYNCH born 1959, Greensboro NC - was using a fake name to conduct illicit business while Attorney General. MULTIPLE crimes here even before you look at what she was DOING. Just using state apparatus with fake names and illegal accounts is imprisonable, and certainly she should be disbarred.


Parents


  • Mother - Lorine Lynch (maiden name Harris)
  • Father - Rev Lorenzo Lynch (Lorenza but he called himself Lorenzo)

Here's proof of Loretta's parents name: http://imgur.com/a/sV6YO

Here's marriage cert for Lorenzo and Lorine Lynch: http://imgur.com/a/MAEGA


Maternal Grandparents

  • MGM - Lizzie Harris (first married name = Bell (Beel), maiden name = Carlisle (alt spellings Carliss / Carlile)
  • MGF - Loveless Harris (alt spellings Lovelace / Loveliss)

Much sleuthing by myself and Redditer https://www.reddit.com/user/queenicarius have discovered the links. Confusion lies in Ancestry.com's common misinterpretation of name spellings from handwritten certificates and registers.

Its BELL and CARLISLE - definitely!

Turns out Loretta's maternal grandmother was definitely Lizzie Carlisle as evidenced by her death certificate in 1958 (year before Loretta was born). Lizzie Carlisle married Walter Bell, who died leaving her with 5 children. She remarried Loveless Harris.

Death Cert - Lizzie Harris: http://imgur.com/a/ox2Vu

Now get this - maternal grandparents marriage certificate state her maiden name as LIZZIE CARLISS BEEL (according to ancestry.com) - but this is taken from a hard copy marriage cert which looks to me like LIZZIE CARLILE BELL.

Marriage Cert - Lizzie Harris: http://imgur.com/a/GENDe

In fact CARLILE is an alternative spelling of the same root surname, others are CARLYLE, CARLISLE. Carlisle is the most common spelling of the name.

CARLISS is not common at all - not even in the top 150,000 most common US surnames. Carlile however is in the top 7,000 (source http://www.pbs.org/pov/apps/thesweetestsound/popularity-index/popindex.php?name=carlile&Submit=Submit)).

On Ancestry.com there are 5,000 records under the surname Carliss for the USA. There are 140,766 under the surname Carlile. That's 28x more

Look at the marriage cert again. It looks like Carlile or even Carlisle to me but to another person it could look like Carliss. But consider the fact Carlile is a more common surname by an order of magnitude - maybe 1 Carliss for every 28 Carlile's. So on the balance of probability the name is Carlile.

However all this is irrelevant now we've located the Death Cert of Lizzie Harris which CLEARLY shows the birth name as CARLISLE.


So What?!


The chances of this being a coincidence are astronomical. Basically, Loretta thought she was being oh-so-clever by doing business under a fake name to hide her connection. Why would anyone do this if its not something that is illegal or would damage her reputation or career in some way.

So the silly bitch uses her maternal grandmother's name - LIZZIE CARLISLE.

Even proving her abusing Government email systems with fake accounts, and conducting business without accountability and audit trails, is imprisonable. That's before you consider what she was actually up to.

We need to weaponise this and spread the word

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[–] SoSpricyHotDog [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Ok, so... apparently this thread "broke" voat. I'm seeing new comments come in with a default (-1) downvoat from comments submitted by others, and when I attempt to upvoat I see a "+/-" sign, then refreshing shows a big fat "0" next to their name, but my +1 "Blue Arrow" is still lit.

I'm sure it's an unrelated bug and I'm being paranoid...

But I'm still going to lock up/load up to be sure.

Haha.

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[–] Judgejewdy 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

No, that means it's being suppressed like all good posts are and have been since the beginning of pg. "making improvements" has been the excuse since November.

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[–] Jem777 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I believe Peter Kadzik was just reassigned the opening of the new Clinton email investigatiin. Sickening. This is the guy all over HRC emails and Podesta's who thanks him for "keeping me out of jail"

Next he leaked the HRC investigation to her the entire time.

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[–] 2impendingdoom ago 

Thats been brought up but I haven't been able to find any confirmation of that appointment from any outside sources.

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[–] Truthplease5 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

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[–] SoSpricyHotDog [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Duuuude... WTF just happened. I saw your post pop up in my notifications, and it immediately had 3 downvoats against it. Now? None.

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[–] UglyTruth 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Could be a software glitch, voat has been undergoing work to make it open source friendly.

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