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[–] GuntPunt 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You could weigh both pairs, but you would need something like a package scale. You can find out how much a ream of denim costs and use a program (or simple geometry) to see how many patterns you could cut out of it. After a certain size, they need a special larger size ream that is way more expensive, because it takes a specialized textile machine. This is why all the mega-fatties complain about not having cheap clothes in their size. The amount of stitching also increases costs of course. Longer / more fasteners also raises costs. Another big factor is that fat doesn't produce a standard shape. Most skeletons look the same, you just adjust for height etc... the more fat, the more variety in shape between consumers. It makes it uneconomical to mass-produce fat ass clothes.

I remember seeing (I think here on FPH) a really good blog post by some shitlord in the fashion industry explaining all these things. Not sure where to find it though, I did a quick search.

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[–] theepilepticferret 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

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[–] Little_Florist [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

This is everything I ever wanted. Thank you.

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[–] GuntPunt 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

That's it! I knew someone would have it. Thanks ferret!

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[–] somebuttoronebutt 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

In order to really drive the point home, you'd have to be comparing identical styles that are offered in both sizes.

In my opinion, the real environmental insult is that plus sizes needed to be created at all. Instead of a garment being produced in xs-xl, they now are made from xs-gas giant. It's an insane amount of waste for clothing that shouldn't need to exist for the public.

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[–] billyjackthemac 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Is there any added cost to the increased weight of fat clothes to transport to stores then the increased shelf space they then take up in those stores? I know nothing about this stuff so probably a dumb question, just curious..

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[–] Little_Florist [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I wouldn't be surprised, it also takes up space of human sized clothing, which means less sales because unfortunately they make fat fuck clothes fairly cheap...

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[–] somebuttoronebutt 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Not a dumb question, and it can vary for different companies, depending on their setup. It also depends on the garment.

Regarding transportation, the extra cost depends on the method of shipment, how heavy the garment is in general and how much space it takes up (for example, a sweater/winter coat vs a tee shirt).

At the retail level, there is definitely an added cost in having to include every size on the shelves. This is why many retailers only include a certain size range in brick and mortar stores, and the rest need to be ordered online.
(the exception to this would be retailers that only offer plus size clothing, obviously)

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[–] billyjackthemac ago 

That makes sense, thanks!

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[–] Revenantae 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

From the manufacturing side the difference in weight and material, to a certain point isn't an issue. That's why human sizes are all pretty much the same price. The big difference comes in when a particular piece of clothing wont fit on a standard sized bolt of cloth. Bulk cloth is generally sold in bolts, which are mostly 45 or 60 inches in width. As long as a particular piece of clothing can be cut from a standard size bolt of cloth, wastage is minimal. The reason fatties clothes cost more, and waste more, is that they generally need to be cut from NON-standard bolts, which cost a lot more to buy, and leave much bigger pieces of wasted material. That's where you should really focus on the waste.

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[–] Little_Florist [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

It would be interesting to see what a person could make out of the leftovers, like a car port cover or a new sail for a boat. Maybe 200 doggie beds.

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[–] Mass_Eject 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Which amount of fabric costs more to produce?

This:

https://imgoat.com/uploads/82be0c5cdc/32030.jpg

Or this:

https://imgoat.com/uploads/82be0c5cdc/32031.jpg

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[–] Little_Florist [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Perfect example! Thank you haha!

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[–] Skinnyman 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Their tarps are subsidised by us paying more for far less product.

BUT MUH SIZE DOESN'T AFFECT NOBODY BUT ME

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[–] BlackThornOfLove 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I've kept my largest pants before losing weight. Fatty clothes are very, very different. It's not even full denim. It's woven with a fuck ton of spandex to accommodate all the different shapes. That also makes it thinner, then fatties kill them with chub rub. Pants in a normal size have way different feels to then, and more materials ti choose from.

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[–] Pm_me_ur_genetiks ago 

You could do this with sewing patterns also keep in mind more fabric is wasted in large sizes as the pattern pieces are large so you can only get one on the width. In human sizing you can 2-3.

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[–] Pm_me_ur_genetiks ago 

as the sewing patterns include how much fabric yardage is needed for that size.

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