[–] billyjackthemac 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
Is there any added cost to the increased weight of fat clothes to transport to stores then the increased shelf space they then take up in those stores? I know nothing about this stuff so probably a dumb question, just curious..
[–] Little_Florist [S] 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
I wouldn't be surprised, it also takes up space of human sized clothing, which means less sales because unfortunately they make fat fuck clothes fairly cheap...
[–] somebuttoronebutt 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Not a dumb question, and it can vary for different companies, depending on their setup. It also depends on the garment.
Regarding transportation, the extra cost depends on the method of shipment, how heavy the garment is in general and how much space it takes up (for example, a sweater/winter coat vs a tee shirt).
At the retail level, there is definitely an added cost in having to include every size on the shelves. This is why many retailers only include a certain size range in brick and mortar stores, and the rest need to be ordered online.
(the exception to this would be retailers that only offer plus size clothing, obviously)
[–] somebuttoronebutt 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
In order to really drive the point home, you'd have to be comparing identical styles that are offered in both sizes.
In my opinion, the real environmental insult is that plus sizes needed to be created at all. Instead of a garment being produced in xs-xl, they now are made from xs-gas giant. It's an insane amount of waste for clothing that shouldn't need to exist for the public.
[–] Revenantae 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago (edited ago)
From the manufacturing side the difference in weight and material, to a certain point isn't an issue. That's why human sizes are all pretty much the same price. The big difference comes in when a particular piece of clothing wont fit on a standard sized bolt of cloth. Bulk cloth is generally sold in bolts, which are mostly 45 or 60 inches in width. As long as a particular piece of clothing can be cut from a standard size bolt of cloth, wastage is minimal. The reason fatties clothes cost more, and waste more, is that they generally need to be cut from NON-standard bolts, which cost a lot more to buy, and leave much bigger pieces of wasted material. That's where you should really focus on the waste.
[–] Little_Florist [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
It would be interesting to see what a person could make out of the leftovers, like a car port cover or a new sail for a boat. Maybe 200 doggie beds.
[–] Pm_me_ur_genetiks ago
You could do this with sewing patterns also keep in mind more fabric is wasted in large sizes as the pattern pieces are large so you can only get one on the width. In human sizing you can 2-3.
[–] Pm_me_ur_genetiks ago
as the sewing patterns include how much fabric yardage is needed for that size.
[–] Mass_Eject 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Which amount of fabric costs more to produce?
This:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/82be0c5cdc/32030.jpg
Or this:
[–] HitlerDinduNufin ago
you could take a 3xxl T shirt and cut it up, sew it back together into 3M Tshirts if you are skilled with a sewing machine/needle&thread.
That would be interesting. in fact, I may do that myself.
[–] Little_Florist [S] ago
I'm upset that these plus sizes exist at all. If hammy doesn't like the way it "fits" more often than not it'll toss it away, or "send it back" where who knows what actually happens to that garment?
[–] BlackThornOfLove 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I've kept my largest pants before losing weight. Fatty clothes are very, very different. It's not even full denim. It's woven with a fuck ton of spandex to accommodate all the different shapes. That also makes it thinner, then fatties kill them with chub rub. Pants in a normal size have way different feels to then, and more materials ti choose from.
[–] GuntPunt 0 points 11 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago (edited ago)
You could weigh both pairs, but you would need something like a package scale. You can find out how much a ream of denim costs and use a program (or simple geometry) to see how many patterns you could cut out of it. After a certain size, they need a special larger size ream that is way more expensive, because it takes a specialized textile machine. This is why all the mega-fatties complain about not having cheap clothes in their size. The amount of stitching also increases costs of course. Longer / more fasteners also raises costs. Another big factor is that fat doesn't produce a standard shape. Most skeletons look the same, you just adjust for height etc... the more fat, the more variety in shape between consumers. It makes it uneconomical to mass-produce fat ass clothes.
I remember seeing (I think here on FPH) a really good blog post by some shitlord in the fashion industry explaining all these things. Not sure where to find it though, I did a quick search.
[–] theepilepticferret 0 points 6 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago
Ask and you shall receive!
@Little_Florist
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[–] Little_Florist [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
This is everything I ever wanted. Thank you.
[–] GuntPunt 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
That's it! I knew someone would have it. Thanks ferret!