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[–] remedy4reality ago
Exactly the attitude that has allowed Satanists to take over the world.
[–] Tallest_Skil 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
Yeah, papists have always pushed people away from actually being Christians. Their kikery would come crashing down if the West still knew jews were to blame for Jesus' death.
[–] Tallest_Skil ago
"The Papists" invented Christianity.
They didn't, in fact. Holy fuck, you know nothing.
Calling it fake Christianity is laughable.
It's not, since it openly rejects all of the tenets of Christianity.
It is a mind/crowd control tool. It was created by government to cement power and placate the masses.
Go tip your fedora somewhere else. Nothing you've said is accurate and you have zero knowledge of Christian history.
[–] daddysdarlin 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
this pope is a disgrace to the holy catholic church! Dont have a personal relationship with Jesus? WTF he is trying to destroy faith itself!!! This pope is either the anti-christ or he who will make the way for the anti-christ!!! He is a traitor to the catholic teachings!!!**
[–] 9869082? 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
What he cautioned against was "a personal, direct, immediate relationship with Jesus Christ". Why would anyone think that any "holy man" would want people to talk to God/Jesus directly instead of coming to them for everything? Would the Roto-Rooter guy tell you to unclog your own toilet? Would Jiffy Lube tell you to change your own oil? Nope. So why would a man who relies on people coming to him for something want people to do it themselves?
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[–] Tzitzimitl 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
truefax: in the middle ages the catholic church forbid people from reading the bible
[–] Kal 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
Is this a good source, and is it possibly taken out of context?
No one has ever been able to explain why every pope comes to look like a Sith Lord after a few years. I mean, presidents age quickly as if their time in office is lived in dog years, but they don't come out literally looking evil.
[–] Guyven ago
I will say that the source here sensationalizes it a bit. Assuming this is a good translation (I don't speak Italy) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGH20H8AV2U
If I were to be generous, what he has said is not so amazing: that supplanting the church body with mere personal spiritualism based on 'Jesus' is dangerous and wrong. That's not terribly far off base from standard New Testament teaching, especially in Hebrews "forsake not the gathering of yourselves together as some do" which exhorts that being a part of a body of other believers is fundamental to healthy Christian life. There are myriad reasons for this, and it stands up logically.
I think that a less generous interpretation is somewhat justified, however. The takeaway seems to be, ultimately, that you're nothing without the Church (which i must interpret as his Catholic Church specifically), and you're too stupid and unrefined to seek a personal understanding with Christ (which I find an especially detestable sentiment, as that runs distinctly counter to the much wider body of New Testament teaching than the one line in Hebrews). At least in this excerpt, he does not qualify his exhortation with the reassurance that you ARE to have a relationship, just within the environment of the Church, he seems to say that your relationship is not to be had, except THROUGH the Church. Which I do not agree with at all.