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[–] 9710111? ago 

My theory about being anon is the less people know who I am the more likely I am to get suicided . Whoever thinks they can't be found out is sadly mistaken . I have relatives nationwide that have a snail mail letter from me letting them know what I've been researching and if anything happens to me those hundreds of letters will be brought forth . There are lots of things I wished I wouldn't of said out loud on line , but there's no take backs . I think the whole black mail system will be takin down and also believe pizzagate researchers may start getting blackmailed too . People will start digging up every thing you were ever envolved with and start doxxing people just to shut em up, but this is where decernment comes in . Will we do the right thing? Will we be scared into silence if something we regret doing is brought up? This is very real. I've already confessed my worst ( IMO ) to my husband . I'm not proud but I cheated . I told him 2 years ago and thankfully he really loves me and knows the evil we are up against .

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[–] bopper ago  (edited ago)

I don't know, they've done nothing to Ryan yet. I'm sure it depends on your level of involvement and how important what you're researching is. It may be that some of these people have (like Alefantis) become liabilities, I believe that Hillary is just being used at this point, helping to clean up after the party. Maybe Podesta and others too. I'm not a believer either in "Trump is controlled," so his presidency might be really upsetting the apple-cart. (Though I have, for years, known elections have been a charade, "illusion of choice.")

Well not completely controlled anyway. I know he's got baggage, just how bad is the question.

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[–] 9710475? ago  (edited ago)

I can't say that I haven't had stuff happen . It could all just be a coincidence . But my bank account was drained twice by the state of ca in error . And yes I got my money back but it took 5 days . It happened around the time my Twitter was banned . And my home computer was fried . It could all just be happenstance but I don't know . That's what made me tell everyone close to me far and wide exactly what Ive been doing .

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[–] DonKeyhote 4 points -2 points (+2|-4) ago 

You fucking morons didnt follow up this lead so i had to do it all myself. Just unbelievable how stupid you all are.

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[–] IsThisGameOfThrones 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

What did you find?

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[–] bopper 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Hey Ryan, was Alefantis screaming, cursing, when he went off on you on the phone? How bad did he lose it? Glad you're doing alright. No prob if you don't want to say.

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[–] IsThisGameOfThrones 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

I wouldn't say screaming but I would say emotional. This was something that was very important to him. He was cursing. He was speaking very fast and would barely let me get anything in.

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[–] bopper ago 

Amazing. Thanks. I know you're still in the surreal zone about it, that will never go away. Congratulations :)

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[–] IsThisGameOfThrones 2 points 14 points (+16|-2) ago 

Hey guys! Hope everybody is doing alright. I'm ryan from the video. I'd be happy to answer any questions you guys might have.

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[–] party1981 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Hey Ryan, do you have any updates for us on the investigation? I'm guessing you heard from one or more contacts inside local police, maybe feds? I'm guessing that you still believe it was JA, and I believe you. Yet it has been many months and it looks like nothing will happen with arrests.

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[–] equineluvr 4 points -1 points (+3|-4) ago 

My primary question is, What is your IQ?

Why didn't you RECORD the phone conversation you allegedly had with James Alefantis?

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[–] IsThisGameOfThrones 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

I know it's difficult but try and put yourself in my shoes. I know that's even more difficult because you only know like 3 things about me. Life happens in a flash. Be as prepared as possible. Learn. Move on

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[–] Votescam 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Familiar with the story so when I saw it up again, was wondering if it was being updated. Hi Ryan -- trust you are well and haven't been bothered any further by Alefantis. :)

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[–] IsThisGameOfThrones 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

All is well

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[–] PedoStomper 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Have you heard from Alefantis since this happened? Has anything odd happened in your life that made you think he may have had a hand in it?

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[–] IsThisGameOfThrones 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

He spoke to me hours after releasing the Pegasus video we have never communicated after that.

No

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[–] Devious1 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Sounds familiar

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[–] R34p_Th3_Wh0r1w1nd ago 

Does that count as terroristic threat?

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[–] IsThisGameOfThrones 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

Yes

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[–] iggysba 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Watched the video. By itself, nothing remotely warranting threats or actionable under the law. Mr. Alefantis provided the label "Kill Room" himself, right? Or it was posted on his former Instagram and he acknowledged it, correct? --- You can't be sued for libel for referencing the term. --- You didn't say anything in the video actionable in court, though I'm not a lawyer.

His extreme reaction can only make people wonder if there isn't something to hide there...

People did not put those disturbing images on his Instagram page. Nor the creepy videos. Nor the very creepy artwork. Nor the suggestive, creepy comments with the images.

He opened the can of worms - innocent or guilty.... He can't sue people who are simply following up on it using sources freely available to the public. ----- Threatening them for doing so only makes him appear guilty. That's not libelous...

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[–] DeathTooMasons 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Whe you are above the law, its hard to open a can of worms that can harm you. He just doesn't like being outted is my guess, if it really happend at all.

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[–] Konran 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

There are three possibilities here.

  1. This is all totally legit and this guy Ryan has been threatened by J. Alefantis.

  2. This guy Ryan is controlled opposition and this whole episode has been invented to stop people from investigating more deeply.

  3. This guy Ryan wants to sell more of his Pizzagate merchandise and this is a novel way to raise awareness of his product.

Not sure where I sit - but I'm not accepting it as the god's honest truth because there's a good chance (66% by my calculations) it isn't.

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[–] DeathTooMasons 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Im going with #2 or #3.

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[–] IsThisGameOfThrones 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

How's it going? I'm ryan from the video. I can assure you it's all 100% true.

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[–] Ziggystrife 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

You should have threatened Alefantis back.

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[–] Konran 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Hi Ryan - how's it going? You seem pretty chirpy for someone who's just had their life threatened. I'm glad. BTW when did all this happen?

Anyhoo, can you think of a way to prove that this is all 100% true - a way that is not just providing verbal/written assurances?

You know I'm inclined to believe it is true, but it's important to be able to provide proof to know it is true that allows for further investigation. The need for a warrant to search Pegasus requires evidence of criminal wrongdoing and if you can back up what you are claiming and go to the authorities then there could be sufficient cause to investigate the building. Just saying.

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[–] redditsuckz 1 point 5 points (+6|-1) ago  (edited ago)

This is the video that made Alefantis go Bezerk and one of the mods here also went Bezerk when this video was posted;

PIZZAGATE KILL ROOM FOUND! Pegasus Museum owned by Alefantis Mirror

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_1Z9o7OxQw

Maybe Alefantis knew the guy on the roof of Pegasus...

You can see the dude on the roof with his cell phone on google maps and he might be on his cell phone with the lady on the ground with the kids;

http://i.imgur.com/nx8G8l0.jpg

August 2014 - Triangle roof

http://i.imgur.com/LVlMbbC.jpg

November 2016 - Square Glass roof + guy in red jacket on roof

http://i.imgur.com/tbT6Y78.jpg

You can sort of make out the glass from inside Pegasus museum;

http://imgur.com/a/4W651

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[–] Hall_of_Cost 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

202 285 0567 did anyone ever call him after this video was made?

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[–] Konran 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Yeah - I saw this when it first appeared a number of months ago.

It could be there is too much residual DNA evidence that scared Alefantis into making those threats. However, we need some homemade Luminol to be able to check that.

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[–] iggysba ago 

I never accept anything as "true" or "false" until the evidence warrants a firm conclusion. ---- But, I think 66% is way high. Someone making up those messenger comments would have done a much better job.... That's how you spot a Fabulist journalist: The story reads just too good to be true if Imagination is used.

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[–] Konran ago 

I agree with you that there are many determiners for spotting fakery. However a skilled fakerer would know that as well and would therefore temper their writing style to account for this. Realistic language used in the messaging neither proves nor disproves the truth in this case.

Besides - my flippant 66% calculation was based upon my 3 options - with two being false that equates to 2/3 which is equivalent to 66%.

In truth I will continue to hold judgement here.

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