[–] kestrel9 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I was just curious actually, that if you did, to hear about what kind of response you received. Seems to me that liberals who do speak out, are vilified and attacked. It stands to reason that there simply are not enough of them to make a 'movement' that can take the savage oppostions from the monsters they help create. This would seem to support the hijacked ideology theory.
Where did all the old liberal rebels of the past decades go? Are we all calling ourselves conservatives now?
I'm no liberal but in very recent memory:
The only ones I can think of are Christina Hoff Summers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In9bFSWUSZA
Perhaps to some degree Geraldo Rivera, he sounds more moderate than in times past, though still in denial.
Also the professor at Evergreen who had to move his class off campus for his own safety after expressing a reasonable liberal opinion.
There's probably not that many differences, or at least insurmountable ones, between moderate conservatives and many traditional liberals, just imo. That means that much of their ideology has been mainstreamed, but the far left Trotsky Communist faction is what took over and is clearly chosen to run the DNC.
[–] Tallest_Skil 3 points -3 points 0 points (+0|-3) ago
I find it kind of strange that there's no real movement of liberals trying to distance themselves from Bernie Sanders, Bill's wife, and the Democrats. Why is this?
Why would they distance themselves from their masters, you fucking idiot?
real liberals have had their ideology high-jacked.
NO, YOU FUCKING DIPSHIT. THAT IS THEIR IDEOLOGY.
They no longer want to identify with
You're completely wrong.
anything that makes people think "left" (stupid) "liberal"(Not responsible) "Non-authoritative"(Pro-open boarder cuck) "Open minded(Dont have to explain this one)", and even tattoos, crazy hair styles/colors.
No, they're doubling down. They do not believe that it is possible for their beliefs to EVER be wrong, because they do not believe in the concept of wrong.
Where did all the old liberal rebels of the past decades go?
What, the useful idiots who were killed as soon as they stopped being useful? Like all liberal organizations? Where do you think?
I'm only conservative in the context of what liberal now means.
Well, at least you don't like faggots.
Classical liberals supported policies which had a particular goal. When the goal was not reached, because the policy was wrong-headed, the policy was changed. What we have now is a group of liberals who do not change policies, instead asserting some deontological basis of morality in the policy itself, which is some mutant form of the liberalism which today we call “classical”. The reality is that lots of classical liberals changed their positions on liberalism throughout their lifetime because their specific proposals were never supposed to be viewed as the pillars of some hidebound morality in and of themselves. This is why Thomas Jefferson supported the Jacobins, and why he believed the State should be involved in some form of liberal indoctrination of the citizens to the affect diminishing factionalism, so that the US could be a One Party Liberal State. This is why Libertarianism is distinct from Classical Liberalism. The goal of classical liberals, broadly speaking, was “Peace on Earth and good will towards men.” If liberal policies did not promote this, they were scrapped. Liberalism evolved into what it is today, and today they are still seeking over the exact same Utopia through other means. And it was always about the ends.
[–] stillinit [S] ago (edited ago)
I think you give democrats too much credit and liberals in a classical sense not enough but you make some good points. You also prove some of mine. "Well, at least you don't like faggots." You're right, I don't, and never have, but who says someone of a liberal mindset HAS to accept the idea of gays? CNN? Because you and so many other people see things either black or white. All or nothing. Kinda like how people who praise evolution equate it to god not existing. How the fuck does that make any sense? Who started that argument and how did it spread? It's low IQ nigger thinking. I guess at the end of the day, it's definition. What do you define something as versus the way I do?
[–] Tallest_Skil 2 points -2 points 0 points (+0|-2) ago
Matters of truth are objectively black and white. Truth is not a matter of opinion. Things which are actually subjective are never of any real consequence, and thus aren't relevant to solving any of the world's problems.
[–] lord_nougat ago
Real liberals ditched those retards ages ago. At least all the ones I know, except for a few braindamaged burnout retard types who used to be smart once, but something happened that broke that.
This liberal is happily in the Trump camp with the rest of you faggots! I like it here, I think I'll stay.