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[–] CrustyBeaver52 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

We are probably not going to see eye to eye on all of this:)

That said - we do agree on much of it - we are starting in a similar position and reaching different outcomes. I believe Musk's actions on the car side are in fact aimed directly at solving the "not scalable" issue - he sees it as well - he cannot manufacture large numbers of cars without the reliable supply of batteries - so he is building the battery plants. The rest of the car is not an issue. Mitsubishi has finished that part already. (not including that self driving stuff - that needs a lot of work.) He also needs to recharge the batteries, hence he needs the solar company combined with the home recharging stations. Scalability requires the batteries plus the ability to recharge them. He is addressing that. On the materials side, the batteries are actually made from abundant and inexpensive materials - so I expect mass production will lower the unit costs.

Truth is, you can use any electricity source to recharge the charging stations - so there is no need to go with the solar - but I also understand the need to sell a complete package system for the end consumer. Currently, my brother in law just uses the grid wall outlet in his garage - as opposed to setting up any kind of self powered system.

I agree the government IS picking winners and losers here - but I hasten to point out they are also doing that in the entire energy industry - not just the green stuff. Bribery seems to be the determining factor that rules these decisions at the moment - maybe Trump can change that. The whole global carbon trading system is a globalist scam driven by international central bankers - they wish to tax global carbon - so the bribery here is excellent. I did mention they were throwing 80 cents a kilowatt hour at me to build that plant - which is outrageous - solar didn't even cost that much in 1975. Overpaying is easy when you print the money I guess.

As far as Tesla goes - everything rides on the success of the battery factory - because without that the mass production of the cars isn't going to happen. That factory is coming on line right about now - so we will know a lot more soon enough.