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[–] bill.lee ago 

I think there was something else going on...either contracts about to expire or negotiations going awry. Like you said, Trump has been who he is for the past 30-years. I never got the Gordon Gecko cult-of-personality that swirled about him, but it still did exist. And everyone knows what he is like--the statement shouldn't have been surprising. So, the outrage that followed struck me as odd.

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[–] binky ago  (edited ago)

I never got the Gordon Gecko cult-of-personality that swirled about him

everyone knows what he is like

Having ignored said cult of personality I was shocked to learn what he is like.

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[–] binky 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I don't think it should make him a marketplace martyr. But "he has a point (if you interpret his statements with a great deal of mercy)" is NOT a reason to support the scumbag.

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[–] PunchinMahPekaah 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago  (edited ago)

This isn't about being punished for talking about something offensive. He was being purposefully inflammatory and outright wrong. Yes, we aren't getting Mexico's best, but Mexico's best isn't as desperate to start a new life. There is no data to suggest that any significant percentage of Mexican immigrants commit violent crimes, rape, or any of the like.

The only reliable data on rapists by demographic is 18 years old and does not support any statement that any significant percentage of Mexican immigrants are rapists, as Trump claimed.

The data on violent crimes doesn't suggest that a hispanic person is any more likely to commit a violent crime than a white person.

But this data is only about the demographics in genereal, not specifically Mexican Immigrants. And that's the issue I have with Donald Trump's statements. If there was any evidence to back up his inflammatory claims, I would think, "Ok, he was certainly crass but at least he's trying to tackle a problem with this country". There is no such data, however, he was just spouting what he thought to be true, and for a Presidential candidate that is not only inappropriate but the thought of him being in the White House is frightening to me. I want our next President to be someone who will fix the problems we are having without prejudice and with the knowledge of what is important and must be done, not someone who thinks something is a problem with no evidence to support it, then acts on it.

There's my two cents.

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[–] X_805 ago 

I think a large part of the 2008 democrats' message was "the other guy messed up". Seems like most political groups do that because emphasizing conflict attracts more people as it is often easier to dramatize.

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[–] robsta33 1 point 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

I know that my comment may be seen by some as crass and without tact, but the guy really is a total a-hole.

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[–] WalkingShadow 1 point 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

"Who's doing the raping?" doesn't seem to me to be a very cogent statement on the state of border security, if that's his point.