[–] xenoPsychologist ago
wait... thats been an option all along??
[–] SeanBox [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
The people that are in there have no way to change it but I think that we could do better. At the end of the day, they're still our people. Most of them will get out and have no way to survive because they've been busting ass for pocket change in the prison factories.
[–] JohnPaulJones 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I'm ok with prisons being a thing on balance, unless you would rather we just killed or maimed people for breaking the law.
Does someone having a drug addiction mean they should become a slave? Look at your options for traffic tickets...1.work on your own time and give them money you worked for...2. Community service, where you work for them and they don't pay you...3.sit in jail, but at least they air condition the hotbox these days. This is slavery. The 13th amendment doesn't specify felony or misdemeanor...any "crime"
[–] JohnPaulJones 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
That's a specific complaint. If you have a specific complaint about drug law, stump for change in drug law. As far as going to jail for not paying a civil fine, that is clearly not a common outcome and you can once again stump for a specific change. If you have complaints, either put forward a better solution or keep them to yourself.
Also you failed to address my basic concern. Prison is a necessary evil for a civil society. I would rather not put rapists on the streets. If you remove those words from the constitution you will be faced with either release or kill as a framework of justice which seems much more barbaric than this so called "slavery".
[–] Thisismyvoatusername ago
Why would we want to do that? Is there some actual problem you are trying to address? Or do you simply not li,e the language because of a fear it would result in enslaving people for minor crimes? If the latter, is that even a real fear? It has never been used that way, if such a law were proposed it would be unlikely to pass. Plus. amending the Constitution is so hard, the energy would be better spent on more pressing needs than working on the 13th amendment.
[–] SeanBox [S] ago
I've been to prison for drugs and I get a lot of tickets since I came home. I've been a slave. I see what they're doing and I want to help our people. Something has to give.
[–] Thisismyvoatusername 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
So what about your situation do you think would have been different by taking that phrase out of the 13 Amendment?