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[–] prairie ago  (edited ago)

Democracy is about imposing something on everyone, so it makes sense.

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[–] God-Emperor777 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

I think part of the problem is that people think they actually deserve to go on living. God gave you cancer bitch, that was a clue that you need to shuffle your ass off this mortal coil..

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[–] Chimaira92 ago 

You Christians are really starting to show of your Jewish side.

No surprise though, considering you treat Jewsus as a god.

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[–] prairie ago 

Along the same lines, there is a range of medical care we currently have the technology for, some being extremely expensive (costing lots of limited resources, including human time). Does any random person have an entitlement to this care, regardless of the cost to others?

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[–] Zaqwert 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

People unable to take care of themselves love the idea of getting hand outs, no surprise there.

I also love how she thinks 14-16 year olds are remotely capable of having informed opinions about, well, anything.

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[–] GOMAD_OR_GFYAD 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Nobody is anything when they're 14, and if you compare your politics now to when you were14 yr olds then you really must not give a shit about politics if you are still basing it on "'living real life' and not on books, research, and understanding the theory behind political ideologies and the facts about political issues

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[–] anonanomous 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

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[–] ThisIsMyRealName 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Okay.

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[–] prairie 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Translation: I was a capitalist when I felt that I had talent and could make money, but then when I realized that I'd be a big drain on everyone, I was for everyone else being forced to pay for my medical care.

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[–] Moabman 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

"I believed in the power of rational self interest until it served my rational self interest to advocate for socialism and universal health care."

Yikes looks like it's still capitalism

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[–] finalchao 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

There are people who will argue full-on communism is in everyone's best interest.

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[–] puggy 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Capitalism is natural to all humans. Any 1st grade lunch room will have kids trading a cookie for a bag of chips (or vice versa) because they know that every commodity has value dependent on availability (supply) and preference (demand). Socialism is an unnatural economic system based on theory that distorts values based on an authority's desired outcome. It must be taught to people or imposed on them. At age 14, most kids haven't yet been successfully indoctrinated yet. By age 16, many have.

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[–] killercanuck 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Most people have two sides to them so it's impossible to develop a purely socialist society, at least one that's larger than a few hundred members living in a tribal community. If you just base everything on selflessness to create your society it's going to go to shit. It doesn't matter if your rich, poor, a celebrity, some average working stiff you need a selfish struggle to fulfill your own needs. There are some things that get conflated with socialism like having law and order, roads, and a basic safety net for others that in fact are more for the market to reinforce itself. Even some basic access to healthcare and schools will mean you can create more selfish independent individuals. Universal state mandated services somehow manage to fuck up societies making people greedier out of desperation because they can't satisfy themselves. Worse is it turns a lot of people into thinking scarcity is a good thing so they can use it as a tool to promote their dangerous ideologies.

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[–] Charlez6 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Those examples are not conflated with socialism, they are fragments of socialism that we've foolishly allowed because we were naive and they sounded nice. A "basic safety net" is a distortion of the market, not "for the market to reinforce itself", whatever that means. It's about as directly as you can possibly follow the core tenet of the ideology: from each according to his ability, to each according to his need. Along with education and health care, you managed to nail the holy trinity of sweet-sounding socialist society-killing poison.

Even law and roads could be argued as socialist implementations while the government has a monopoly on the provision of those and claims the right to extract funding via coercion, but I'm sure most would agree these are relatively tolerable transgressions.

Charity, education and health care are important; many would say that's why we need government to oversee them, I would say that's why we need to keep government very fucking far away from them so they can't screw it all up.

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[–] Salbuchi_2019 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Capitalism is natural to all humans.

Only to humans?

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[–] puggy 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Interesting. I guess capitalism is natural to all animals capable of understanding the idea of nonspecific value tokens (money). Thanks for the reference.

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