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[–] 0rion 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

Ted may have been nuts, but he was an incredibly intelligent man. For someone who seemed to have such a tight grasp of how the world works, I still can't figure out how he thought his little campaign would make any difference. He could have had far more success as a philosopher than a murderer.

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[–] Nayra [S] 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

He really could have. I find it amazing how well he managed to quickly describe the psychology of leftists.

At the same time, he had a well-documented involvement with the MK Ultra program which I'm sure was unhealthy.

It's pretty unfortunate. He would've been a huge figurehead in the current anti-PC war.

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[–] JJNova 1 point 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

He also railed against the military-industrial complex also. I think he expected his manifesto to get traction, but instead it got buried. It was a good plan (I mean, you know, the plan, not the actions) but we've gotten hip to the game and make sure to not turn people into martyrs anymore.

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[–] Whitemail 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

It's like Mein Kampf. It's easily available in America, but when the author is painted as being the most evil man in the world, people aren't going to embrace the message. Ted comes off as a crazy psycho, so the message didn't have the ability to spread.

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[–] jerry 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

Hehi wonder if his victims think he is a victim too

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[–] Whitemail 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

When Muslims rape women and kill people, the Muslims are the victims.

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[–] altreptiles 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

He had good ideas but the actions done by him (or his alleged group) were horrible. I feel more people would have been able to relate to his ideas if it wasn't brought forward by a terrorist. Maybe though you wouldn't have heard of him if he didn't kill.

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[–] Carmull 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Paragraph 96:

"...But freedom of the press is of very little use to the average citizen as an individual. The mass media are mostly under the control of large organizations that are integrated into the system. Anyone who has a little money can have something printed, or can distribute it on the Internet or in some such way, but what he has to say will be swamped by the vast volume of material put out by the media, hence it will have no practical effect. To make an impression on society with words is therefore almost impossible for most individuals and small groups. Take us (FC) for example. If we had never done anything violent and had submitted the present writings to a publisher, they probably would not have been accepted. If they had been accepted and published, they probably would not have attracted many readers, because it's more fun to watch the entertainment put out by the media than to read a sober essay. Even if these writings had had many readers, most of these readers would soon have forgotten what they had read as their minds were flooded by the mass of material to which the media expose them. In order to get our message before the public with some chance of making a lasting impression, we've had to kill people."

If he hadn't killed people we wouldn't be talking about him right now.

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[–] Runaway-White-Slave 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

"the whole we-need-to-abandon-technology-and-live-in-the-woods part" is the best part wtf are you talking about?

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[–] 0rion 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Most people will have a hard time accepting this is the truth, because they have become so hopelessly addicted to technology. Over time, I've realized Ted's vision IS how we should probably be living. It seems more sustainable than our current system.

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[–] Vhaine 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

The problem with abandoning technology is that our own salvation could very well prove our doom. A better plan would be to achieve the required tech level to seed colonies. Then let those people do it. It would be the societal equivalent to mutation. Maybe those people die off. Maybe they are the only people to survive. The point is we need a few humans on a couple of other planets before we all wander into the coca fields never to return.

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[–] altreptiles 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Maybe in a country like Canada or America, where there is room to just go out in the woods. Most of the world will end up killing each other if they tried doing that, too many damn people. Without technology many would die, perhaps that is how it should be, idk. In another sense though I think humans should leave the wilds to regrow in peace. Humans can all live in the cities and let the world develop the way it will. There are ways to live in harmony with nature, but the amount of people will beggar the earth's natural bounty. Definitely a beautiful idea though, Wouldn't cause to much harm if a few people did it.

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[–] lemon11 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Just a reminder: he considered himself a "leftist," whatever he meant by that, at least as evidenced in his manifesto (e.g., "fellow leftists").

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[–] middle_path 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

He also wrote of the "FC"(freedom club) implying there was a group instead of just an individual. He could have lied about being a leftist as well.

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[–] lemon11 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

He may have been capable of it, but the document and his history suggest he was being honest.

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[–] middle_path 1 point 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

I read this a few years back. Very great read, but take it with a grain of salt. He was still extremely polarized. I feel we have a few Teds creeping around voat.

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[–] GOMAD_OR_GFYAD 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

What is your mailing address?

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[–] ratsmack 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

It's one thing to think like Ted... and another to take action like Ted.

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[–] Goathole 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

It's been awhile since I've read his manifesto but from what I remember.........say what you want, he IS right about a lot of things.

I also think your assessment of "the leftist mentality" is complete bunk. Again, it's been awhile.

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[–] Carmull 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Those are direct quotes from the manifesto. It's Ted's assessment, not OP's.

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[–] antiliberalsociety 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

A lot of whistle blowers are made out to be insane. And if they have a based manifesto they altar it to make them look insane and focus on whatever ill deeds they committed. But when you compare those deeds to leftist's ill deeds, it pales in comparison.

Thanks for the paste, I wasn't about to click a WaPo link.

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[–] goatboy 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Ol Teddy Boy, was right in almost all of his observations, but wrong in his conclusions. He saw the world as it is and is likely to become, but his solution was to assassinate engineers. This is stupid. The answer to a disenfranchisement is not violence. For thousands of years idiots used violence and it only ever results in more violence and more disenfranchisement. No the answer to disenfranchisement is elevated consciousness and a love for the people.

Ted never truly loved the people. He was like a false prophet screaming noise and rage into the wind. He hoped others with rage would repeat the message. This was foolish. He should have spread seeds of love and reconciliation to the people. He should have taught the people how to connect with their communities. He should not have pretended to be a lone wolf protecting humanity from change.

Instead, a true prophet defies the rage, defies wind, and spreads a better signal through the noise.

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[–] gazillions 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Lofty. There is no such thing as elevated consciousness. It's just the same old status seeking elitism but transferred to a playing field some people feel is more to their ability than objective achievement. Evolution, spiritual or otherwise treats the species as a whole. In that respect you were born equal to all.

As a matter of fact your ideals sound very close to Christianity with the love for all humanity deal, unlike the other two big leaguers. That comparison doesn't ever appeal to erstwhile spiritual snobs.

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[–] goatboy 3 points -3 points (+0|-3) ago  (edited ago)

Maybe, but in the end the only thing all humans have, all they have ever had, all they will ever truly have is hope and a work towards their hopes. I choose to hope an elevated consciousness is possible. I will not hide from change. I choose to embrace the change that Ted so feared. I will use the technology as a tool of my hope.

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