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[–] Morbo 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Now explain why we still do not have accurate weather forecasts despite being all knowing of the simple system known as weather. Where is the cure for the common cold? Why don't we have full replacement artificial eyes if they are so simple?

Climate is complex but simple minds can't grasp that fact. Repeating the same talking points with no backing other than "come on, come on" to them will not convince people who aren't simply mindless sheep.

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[–] The_Cat [S] 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Weather is a chaotic system. Even with extremely accurate measurements and a perfect model, the prediction will deviate from reality after about 10 days, which is inherent to chaotic systems.

Climate, on the other hand, is a general trend which takes into account the total budget of heat entering and exiting the global atmospheric and oceanic system, which then drives weather patterns. Climate is much easier to model and predict than weather. In short, we can predict the general trend of what the weather will be like at a certain time of the year at a certain location, but we can't really tell if it will rain or exactly how warm it will be too long in advance.

Cosmos explains it well.

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[–] Morbo 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Weather is a chaotic system.


Climate......which then drives weather patterns

That makes climate a complex system that cannot be modeled so simplistically. It's more akin to the global economy in which the overall economic state can be visualized in simple terms but it fails to predict local economic booms and busts. Climate is weather effects smoothed out and averaged over time but you must understand the weather systems to truly know the climate. The model of heat in the atmospheric and oceanic mediums are too simple to accurately predict anything. This is why the climate models are not working and why "climate scientists" latch on to every freak weather event as proof of anthropogenic climate change when they've been telling the "deniers" that "weather is not climate" for decades. The models are broken and there is no consensus in science.

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[–] golgotham 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

Climate Alarmists -"Reality has proven too complex for the outdated computer models we worship. But, but...CARBON!" Projection from the left, as ever.

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[–] The_Cat [S] 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

What's complex about:

  1. CO2 is a greenhouse gas and thus traps heat.
  2. We are pumping out more CO2 than ever, and there hasn't been this much CO2 in the atmosphere for millions of years.
  3. From 1. and 2. we can conclude that we are causing the planet to heat up, which is what we see in the global temperature record.

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[–] golgotham 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago  (edited ago)

"The Earth has become greener as carbon dioxide — which plants need — has increased as a percentage of the atmosphere." http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/16/bias-ignorance-and-reality-in-climate-science/

Aint it funny how, with this "settled" science, it all depends on who you ask? Meanwhile, we yet live...