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[–] NoMoreScreenNames 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Doesn't matter. The left seized on the "Russian ties" thing with delight , as it cleared the DNC or Democratic voters from any complicity in HRC's defeat ("It's NOT because Hillary was a rotten candidate loathed by voters! It's NOT because Sander's supporters stayed home or voted for Trump! We were robbed! The Russians did it! Not fair, WAAAAHHH-!")

No matter how many times Trump is cleared, or by how many different authorities he is cleared, they will be parroting the "Russian puppet" BS until January (hopefully) 2025.

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[–] bdmthrfkr [S] 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Egg meet face.

I am just waiting to see how MSM talks their way out of this, after months of pushing a non-existent story so hard.

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[–] Boyakasha 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

But but but, muh proof! What about the intelligence report where they THINK Russia hacked us but offer no actual evidence?? Checkmate, Americans.

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[–] lipids 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

They will ignore it. Pretend mistakes never happened and most will forget about it.

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[–] bdmthrfkr [S] ago 

Not this time sister, this is tied in to the greater scandal of the Obama administration wiretapping a Presidential nomnee.

This ain't going anywhere for a long time, and if it looks like it will be shoved under a rug I imagine a tweet from the right guy will put it back on the burner.

From all reports POTUS was FURIOUS about thus whole affair and he isn't going to let it go.

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[–] worthlesshope 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I really wish these organizations could just plainly say "Trump's ties with Russia was completely falsified in hopes to discredit him"

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[–] onesaltymotherfucker 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

i had some weird dreams last night after watching assange talk about vault 7 yesterday.

what if trump is the one who the CIA lost their hacking technology to? lol

what if thats why you cant stump the trump.

what if thats why trump seems like hes from the future sent back in time to save america and the world from indecent usurpers.

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[–] TheonGreyjoy 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Trump is John Titor! You heard it here first.

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[–] heretolearn 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

how was that talk. I didn't see it. and I'm still not convinced Julian is alive

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[–] flapjack_charlie 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Well, they lost their hacking tools to the internet, so I'm guessing a lot of people have them at the moment.

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[–] forkintoaster 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

ha but the top post on r/all this morning said multiple investigations corroborating Steele dossier.... why has reddit become such a joke?

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[–] Whitemail 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I knew Trump and Russia was fake news from the beginning.

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[–] bdmthrfkr [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

All of us did, it was just too bizarre to be true. That didn't stop the whores in the media from slinging it night and day, over and over until it almost sounded plausible. That's how they work so the next time you hear something repeated endlessly for months on end there is a huge chance that it is fake news.

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[–] Whitemail 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I almost gave in and started talking about it as if it were a possibility, but then I decided to dismiss it as fake news. They're trying to give the left bullshit to feed on to incite them, and it is pretty much serving its purpose. It's the same way they had a bunch of fake polls saying Crooked Hillary was winning.

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[–] 8366558? 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

This is the YoungCons reporting on the investigation into Russia interfering with US elections systems. They say there's not enough evidence to criminally charge people and that they didn't find encrypted communications with or money transferred between Russia nad the Trump campaign. On its face, this seems kind of narrow and blown up to fit a point.

They cited the Daily Caller. The daily caller says that there were no connections between the two on this issue, but that they did verify the Flynn connection and that he did talk about sanctions in a way that is illegal under the Logan act. Flynn did do the things he was harassed for and this investigation did find it.

They cited Circa. Circa tells more of the story. This wasn't focussed on Trump. They didn't find anything because they weren't investigating Trump. They were investigating Russia. In the process of that they still found this bit of dirt on a top Trump advisor, and that apparently created the impression they were also looking at Trump, but they weren't at all.

So this doesn't really prove anything.

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[–] bdmthrfkr [S] 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

What they found on Flynn was extremely minor:

For instance, after the Russian ambassador sent a text message seeking a phone call, Flynn and Kislyak talked about sanctions imposed by Obama on Russia on Dec. 29, but the message the American official gave was mostly that a new sheriff was about to take over the White House and Russians shouldn’t react to the new sanctions in a way that would foreclose better dialog in the future under a Trump administration, sources said.

This hardly rises to the level of breaking the Logan act. And, as you point out, while most of this information wasn't specifically targeted at Trump you can bet your last dollar that every intercept, etc, was poured over by political operatives. If there had been anything there it would have been plastered all over the front page of the NYT.

Really, Trump and his campaign staff are clean, pure and simple.

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[–] NotAnIdiot ago 

Isn't the Logan Act the one that the government violates all the time and they've prosecuted it like once?

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[–] junesunflower 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

So this is just ONE investigation. It was following up on a report that Trump's computer servers were being pinged by a system in Russia.

I am not going to expect any of you to be smart enough to fully understand what I just said, and I am too lazy to explain it more.

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[–] bdmthrfkr [S] ago 

Wow, you are a true moron. The bank in Russia wasn't pinging Trumps server, a fake server was set up in Trump's name by a third party and was pinging the Russian bank. This way they could justify the FISA warrant.

You really need to spend more time over at the chans. Idiot.

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[–] NotAnIdiot ago 

Are you talking about the server out of Trump Tower that Vault 7 exposed as actually being run by the CIA?

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[–] ThisWeirdWeirdWorld ago 

Umm, no, it actually wasn't, they're referencing a Circa report which details more than one branch of investigation and goes beyond pinging a server:
http://circa.com/politics/fbi-probe-of-donald-trump-and-russia-during-election-yielded-no-evidence-of-crimes

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