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[–] HarveyHarveyJones 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

That's why i come to voat, among other sites.

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[–] WhiteRonin [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

To the bastillions of wanting to know more than what is being spoon feed to us?

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[–] BottomLine 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

They're actually very dependable. You can always count on their bias.

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[–] WhiteRonin [S] ago 

Won't deny that.

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[–] basedputin 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Journalism has always been dead. It's currently called propaganda, once the (((god's chosen people))) took control of the United States they've been creating mass murder and endless wars in the Middle East.

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[–] WhiteRonin [S] ago 

You forgot: deflection and diversion ;-)

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[–] PsyOp 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Actually, the Jews have controlled all media in the US, and most of Europe, for decades...it has never been trustworthy. Yes, they control most of the Alt-media, too...Breitbart.com, for example, was founded by a Zionist Jew, and has several Jews, who are responsible for its content, on its staff; the flamboyant homosexual Jew, Milo Yiannopoulos, being one of them. But even those Alt-news sites that aren't directly controlled by Jews, are still heavily influenced by the Jewish propaganda that they were indoctrinated with as children growing up.

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[–] WhiteRonin [S] ago 

But .. but ... "Stand with Israel" ...

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[–] WhiteRonin [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Loose lips sink ships ... That is a good starting point for sure!

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[–] kneo24 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

If you don't read the newspaper you're uninformed. If you read the newspaper you're misinformed.

-Mark Twain

This has always been an issue. The free flow of information that is the internet makes the situation more noticeable.

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[–] WhiteRonin [S] ago 

Back then people knew the stance of the paper by the content of its editorials or owner.

The free flow of the internet also has expanded the editorial section to headline status.

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[–] carlinco 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

In my opinion, the death knell for independent news already came under the last Bush administration, where homeland security and other fascist 'improvements' also meant lots of new controls over the media. The Obama administration only used this with mastery, and with a more willing media.

So now we are in the very unlucky situation that nearly no media dare to say anything too critical. They are all unlikely to publish any real leaks - it's always the European or Russian newspapers who need to publish something about the US before it can be published there. And even that is changing.

Unluckily, people in law enforcement and government don't usually get how much such leaks helped improve their countries and made them better and more successful than third world dictatorships.

Additionally, with political correctness becoming more and more rampant, the (leftist) media refuse pretty much on their own to publish anything which could get any backlash happening against minorities - which I can partly understand, but which also leads to social issues being suppressed and festering under the surface.

With right wing media doing the opposite and completely exaggerating the importance of some events, I think the main issue is that it leads to crazy right wing activism and symbolism - like big walls - which also do nothing to fix the underlying issues, only cost everyone a lot of money, which could save many more people if it was instead used in such boring areas as traffic and health improvements.

What we really need is a more statistic based and less emotional approach to news. Which parts of the population are involved in which crimes? How can it be changed? Which areas are unsafe to go to for which groups of people? Why? What can be done? Who is unhappy with things as they are? How much is real issue (actual differences to others), how much is just flatly wrong and only based on rumors and such? How can it be addressed? Where do people die of what causes? And so on.

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[–] WhiteRonin [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I watch the horror show of 9/11 go down from Japan and it was straight reporting since it wasn't not about Japan. I saw how quickly the US went police state and how Bush ramped it up. Nobody in the US at the time who I said this too believed me -- it's our security yada yada.

I agree that your solution would bring back a lot of integrity to journalism but many Americans prefer the 3 seconds of Fame karadashian news technique.

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[–] WhiteRonin [S] ago 

Today that is how it goes.

I'm not denying that news isn't biased just that before Clinton it was at least more neutral or would try to fact check before blurting out, "Fact XYZ".

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