[–] HarveyHarveyJones 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
That's why i come to voat, among other sites.
[–] WhiteRonin [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
To the bastillions of wanting to know more than what is being spoon feed to us?
[–] basedputin 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
Journalism has always been dead. It's currently called propaganda, once the (((god's chosen people))) took control of the United States they've been creating mass murder and endless wars in the Middle East.
[–] PsyOp 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Actually, the Jews have controlled all media in the US, and most of Europe, for decades...it has never been trustworthy. Yes, they control most of the Alt-media, too...Breitbart.com, for example, was founded by a Zionist Jew, and has several Jews, who are responsible for its content, on its staff; the flamboyant homosexual Jew, Milo Yiannopoulos, being one of them. But even those Alt-news sites that aren't directly controlled by Jews, are still heavily influenced by the Jewish propaganda that they were indoctrinated with as children growing up.
[–] carlinco 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
In my opinion, the death knell for independent news already came under the last Bush administration, where homeland security and other fascist 'improvements' also meant lots of new controls over the media. The Obama administration only used this with mastery, and with a more willing media.
So now we are in the very unlucky situation that nearly no media dare to say anything too critical. They are all unlikely to publish any real leaks - it's always the European or Russian newspapers who need to publish something about the US before it can be published there. And even that is changing.
Unluckily, people in law enforcement and government don't usually get how much such leaks helped improve their countries and made them better and more successful than third world dictatorships.
Additionally, with political correctness becoming more and more rampant, the (leftist) media refuse pretty much on their own to publish anything which could get any backlash happening against minorities - which I can partly understand, but which also leads to social issues being suppressed and festering under the surface.
With right wing media doing the opposite and completely exaggerating the importance of some events, I think the main issue is that it leads to crazy right wing activism and symbolism - like big walls - which also do nothing to fix the underlying issues, only cost everyone a lot of money, which could save many more people if it was instead used in such boring areas as traffic and health improvements.
What we really need is a more statistic based and less emotional approach to news. Which parts of the population are involved in which crimes? How can it be changed? Which areas are unsafe to go to for which groups of people? Why? What can be done? Who is unhappy with things as they are? How much is real issue (actual differences to others), how much is just flatly wrong and only based on rumors and such? How can it be addressed? Where do people die of what causes? And so on.
[–] WhiteRonin [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I watch the horror show of 9/11 go down from Japan and it was straight reporting since it wasn't not about Japan. I saw how quickly the US went police state and how Bush ramped it up. Nobody in the US at the time who I said this too believed me -- it's our security yada yada.
I agree that your solution would bring back a lot of integrity to journalism but many Americans prefer the 3 seconds of Fame karadashian news technique.
[–] kkkkkkkkkk 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Frontline, PBS Newshour, to an extent BBC
[–] WhiteRonin [S] ago
Hmm, I'll try those sources. I can see the BBC being less biased reporting on the US.
[–] [deleted] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
[–] WhiteRonin [S] ago
Hopefully, Trump might be able to reverse some of the Dem/feminist brain washing in schools.
I also agree on how you gather you news.
But my point is how it's gotten much worded over the years.
[–] ArsCortica 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I do think there is more than a fair share of malpractice in modern media reporting (even if you don't care for politics, cases such as GamerGate made this blatantly obvious), but at the same time, I fear that people increasingly also will refuse to believe anything that doesn't line up 100% with their personal viewpoints. The problem is that this is actually no longer a problem because modern "news sites" gloriously pander to the reader by only reporting what he or she wants to hear. And even if that's not the case, you can always flip the bird to the MSM in general and just hide in your social media echo chamber.
As with most issues, this is a dance for two. Reporting has become a merry clickbait-fest, yes. But at the same time, you must ask yourself just why once venerable publications like the New York Times have become what they are nowadays.
[–] WhiteRonin [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Definitely! Ever since families went to a double salary the gossip kitchen tables divindled to be revived by the advent of smart phone ownership and the never ending love of gossip. Yet, now, opinions are free as in beer and no longer curtailed by the majority opinion of your neighbors. Total freedom.
Somebody mentioned the decline of sales for newspapers so I guess the NY Times decided to follow the pack. It's a shame because I think people would rather get straight news in general. But you do have a point that people prefer the news broadcasts heard while they have their heads buried like an ostrich.