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[–] zak_the_mac 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

It's easy to get something to negotiate with: apply for a number of jobs, and compare the salaries they offer you. If the job you particularly wanted didn't match the salary offer from another company that you didn't want so much, you could ask the company you wanted to work for to match it.

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[–] 8265607? 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

If you have other comparable but better offers, you could try (a job in a higher cost of living area probably isn't comparable). Otherwise I'd say no. No point risking the only decent opportunity you have to be greedy.

Check to see if the employer publishes salary bands to get an idea of the range for that position. Just expect to be at the bottom of the range as a new employee with no experience, or if you're at the minimum requirements for the position. A fresh senior programmer will likely be paid less than one who's been a senior for years. As a younger employee you're probably going to be paid less than older employees.

Go nuts with the negotiating when you're fully employed and applying for new jobs with nothing to lose. You will also have a better idea of what you actually want. Prior to that, I'd recommend locking down whatever job looks good enough to satisfy you.

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[–] Dr_Poop 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I would try, but lightly. so you don't go way above your worth. The way I see it, if they offered you a job, they'll counter either way even if it is to say "We can only give you the same salary we offered". You have to accept the second offer though, you won't get more after that

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[–] Bfwilley 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

If you never ask, your will never hear some one say YES.

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[–] zquad 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Many people offered valid points. Ultimately you have to have something, some talent, skill, work experience the company wants. What you can do is volunteer on open source projects that the company uses that you can use to upsell yourself. Please remember your current situation for future reference so that your future self don't find yourself attempting to bluff knowing you're not holding anything.

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[–] karaz 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Short answer: No.

Long answer: You have no bargaining chips and nothing to win other than a couple of extra bucks. Don't be greedy, take the low paying job and wait a year. After that, you can reassess your situation by checking other offers and either asking for a raise or leaving the company for a more lucrative position.

Experience is what pays, you have none. Don't kneecap yourself, everyone starts with a shit salary.

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[–] Anonymous_User_69 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Negotiating is just a contest of leverage. You can't negotiate a salary higher than what you are worth, however, you can negotiate up to that point. It isn't a verbal debate where if you win you get more money.

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[–] 1F4A9 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

As someone who hired people like you: nope. Unless you have multiple offers to choose from, you have a special skill, or there has been an opening for a long time and it seems likely that there are no other suitable applicants. They are taking a risk with you because you haven't proven yourself yet as a productive employee. As yourself this: can they get someone more qualified of someone similarly qualified that doesn't ask for more?

First get the job, you can always negotiate a higher salary later. Your bargaining position will be better then.

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