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[–] obvious_throwaway1 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

If a guy is offered 60 and asks for 80, that's a 25% increase. Like I said before, anything over 5% without a really good reason is justified to pull an offer without a "firm". That still doesn't negate that the 5% is basically built into every offer I've ever seen, and I've hired roughly 30 people for 4 different large organizations in the past 15 years. Not a huge sample, but enough for me to know a consistent theme when I see one.

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[–] karaz 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I can see that, but the premise is that it's one guy for the offer, not 10 or 20 as it generally is. You can negotiate extra 5% if you're the only one, but if you're basically intern level like OP... you have 20 other dudes jumping at the offer. In this case... negotiating higher salary is really fucking stupid,