[–]Coz0 points
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The article is sensationalist, and wrong in some ways.
It does not apply to haitians only, but to any illegal immigrant.
Regarding haitians however, their laws say that being the son or daughter of a haitian grants you citizenship, so if they don't have it, the reason is that they never filled the paperwork.
There is no retroactivity. It was a concern, but it didn't happen; what it was going to do is strip people of citizenship that was obtained illegally if proof of such act is found, but that was scrapped. The actual rule simply states that the illegal immigrants that got in the country since 1929 and onwards, are still considered illegal.
The law was enacted and therefore made public on 23 sept 2013, and people could apply as soon as 02 jun 2014, until 17 of june 2015. They had more than one and half year to prepare their application.
The process is by no means perfect, but it's not as evil as the article tries to make it look like, and in fact, even though I do not know much about U.S.A. laws (comparing to it since I'm sure most people in voat are from that country), I'm pretty sure that the U.S.A. would never mass grant citizenship to illegal immigrants under the same terms. If interested, you can read the actual law, in spanish, here .
You make some interesting points. I'm still skeptical. It seems to me that this law was passed and conveniently timed to attach to Haitians. Anyway, I'll keep looking for English reports and try to post something more detailed. I actually looked for a while just to find this one.
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I'm not saying that the law's aim isn't to expel Haitians; I believe it was crafted to show that efforts beyond those of other countries, including the U.S.A., to accept inmigrants is being made, even when they entered the country illegally, as through this process you can gain citizenship rather easily. Then expeling illegal haitians is easier to justify.
You can always reach your own conclusions, but my impression is that other countries don't want the expulsion of illegal haitians back to their home country, because it would be troublesome for Haiti, and that's indirectly inconvenient for other countries. There's no altruism here, from any side.
Would you suggest instead that illegal immigrants are embraced by all countries, or that they are left alone, without even identifying documents?
[–] Coz 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
The article is sensationalist, and wrong in some ways.
The process is by no means perfect, but it's not as evil as the article tries to make it look like, and in fact, even though I do not know much about U.S.A. laws (comparing to it since I'm sure most people in voat are from that country), I'm pretty sure that the U.S.A. would never mass grant citizenship to illegal immigrants under the same terms. If interested, you can read the actual law, in spanish, here .
[–] flyawayhigh [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
You make some interesting points. I'm still skeptical. It seems to me that this law was passed and conveniently timed to attach to Haitians. Anyway, I'll keep looking for English reports and try to post something more detailed. I actually looked for a while just to find this one.
[–] Coz 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
I'm not saying that the law's aim isn't to expel Haitians; I believe it was crafted to show that efforts beyond those of other countries, including the U.S.A., to accept inmigrants is being made, even when they entered the country illegally, as through this process you can gain citizenship rather easily. Then expeling illegal haitians is easier to justify.
You can always reach your own conclusions, but my impression is that other countries don't want the expulsion of illegal haitians back to their home country, because it would be troublesome for Haiti, and that's indirectly inconvenient for other countries. There's no altruism here, from any side.
Would you suggest instead that illegal immigrants are embraced by all countries, or that they are left alone, without even identifying documents?